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Demond Wilson!

A true Hollywood legend, star of TV's Sanford and Son, Demond Wilson! Demond shares his calling from God and his experiences in Hollywood as a Christian

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Demond Wilson!

A true Hollywood legend, star of TV's Sanford and Son, Demond Wilson! Demond shares his calling from God and his experiences in Hollywood as a Christian

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1 00:00:33,072 --> 00:00:34,002 Zoom: Hey everybody. 2 00:00:34,002 --> 00:00:36,172 Welcome back to Lead 12:12. 3 00:00:36,192 --> 00:00:38,022 We're excited that you're hanging out with us. 4 00:00:38,022 --> 00:00:39,702 We have a great speaker today. 5 00:00:39,702 --> 00:00:41,592 We're so excited about Chris. 6 00:00:41,592 --> 00:00:43,092 Tell us about our speaker today. 7 00:00:43,122 --> 00:00:46,932 Chris: We are here with a true legend, the star of my favorite TV show Sanford. 8 00:00:46,932 --> 00:00:47,442 and son. 9 00:00:47,492 --> 00:00:49,052 It's my honor to introduce. 10 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:50,012 Demond Wilson! 11 00:00:50,012 --> 00:00:52,022 Thank you so much for joining us today. 12 00:00:52,422 --> 00:00:53,476 Dave: It's my pleasure in that. 13 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:56,956 I say hi to, to all of your listeners and the woman that 14 00:00:56,956 --> 00:00:58,816 you said was your wife to just. 15 00:00:59,116 --> 00:01:00,676 Chris: We weren't supposed to talk about that. 16 00:01:00,886 --> 00:01:01,186 Zoom: Yeah. 17 00:01:02,186 --> 00:01:02,516 Dave: Yeah, 18 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:05,686 Chris: so Demond, I would love to hear your salvation story. 19 00:01:05,686 --> 00:01:06,886 Can you share that with us? 20 00:01:07,886 --> 00:01:10,098 Dave: I'm so far beyond that, I grew up. 21 00:01:11,358 --> 00:01:11,778 Totally. 22 00:01:11,778 --> 00:01:13,248 Ensconced in Catholicism. 23 00:01:13,788 --> 00:01:17,789 I was an acolyte and my whole life is from the age of eight 24 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:19,649 was centered around the church. 25 00:01:19,729 --> 00:01:22,429 But I brought my mom. 26 00:01:22,729 --> 00:01:23,629 And my dad. 27 00:01:24,889 --> 00:01:25,729 Out of. 28 00:01:26,729 --> 00:01:32,039 The dark side into the light, through the Catholic church now. 29 00:01:32,729 --> 00:01:33,659 One might say. 30 00:01:34,199 --> 00:01:39,114 But you went from the dark side to a lighter, dark side which is true, but it, 31 00:01:39,114 --> 00:01:44,265 there are many roads that lead to to the most high and what the Lord saw in me. 32 00:01:44,715 --> 00:01:47,595 That I was born with was a talent. 33 00:01:47,895 --> 00:01:49,605 For entertaining. 34 00:01:50,325 --> 00:01:52,545 As a dancer and a singer and all of that. 35 00:01:53,385 --> 00:01:53,865 And. 36 00:01:54,585 --> 00:01:56,295 The love in my heart for him 37 00:01:56,395 --> 00:01:58,375 so the Lord's call was on my life. 38 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,476 My kids were in private parochial school. 39 00:02:00,476 --> 00:02:01,436 We were living in. 40 00:02:01,586 --> 00:02:02,306 In Bel air. 41 00:02:02,726 --> 00:02:05,557 Beverly Hills and I have six adult progeny. 42 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:06,464 I took the Lord. 43 00:02:06,614 --> 00:02:09,254 A little as a, literally when he said go forth. 44 00:02:09,824 --> 00:02:11,264 Be fruitful and multiply. 45 00:02:11,294 --> 00:02:11,474 Chris: did 46 00:02:11,534 --> 00:02:11,684 Zoom: that. 47 00:02:11,774 --> 00:02:12,194 Yeah, you 48 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:15,236 Dave: We think so I have four adult. 49 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,136 Daughters. 50 00:02:17,586 --> 00:02:20,046 And two adult. 51 00:02:20,076 --> 00:02:22,876 My oldest is 48, Nicole. 52 00:02:22,886 --> 00:02:27,356 My, my second born Melissa, and they both live in Atlanta with my granddaughter. 53 00:02:27,836 --> 00:02:30,026 My second, Melissa is 40. 54 00:02:30,176 --> 00:02:31,226 Is 44. 55 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,976 My oldest son, Christopher who hits a golf ball, 320 yards. 56 00:02:35,006 --> 00:02:36,056 He's a beast. 57 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:36,596 His kid. 58 00:02:37,196 --> 00:02:41,036 I put it off club in his hand when he was eight years old. 59 00:02:41,636 --> 00:02:44,846 He is a monster and his brother Demonn Jr. 60 00:02:45,086 --> 00:02:47,396 Will never want it to be known as the Mon Jr. 61 00:02:47,726 --> 00:02:51,176 Until he started working in a corporate world and people say, Hey. 62 00:02:51,626 --> 00:02:52,826 Do you know who your dad is? 63 00:02:53,036 --> 00:02:53,246 No. 64 00:02:53,313 --> 00:02:55,069 Do you know what whose name you have? 65 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:56,329 And he said, yeah, 66 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,679 That's my dad and they said, wow, we're going to do business with you. 67 00:03:00,679 --> 00:03:02,459 So now he's Goodman Jr. 68 00:03:02,485 --> 00:03:05,437 The rescue and he's 41. 69 00:03:05,475 --> 00:03:08,068 Tabitha is 36. 70 00:03:08,458 --> 00:03:11,788 And my baby who's been married five years and has her doctorate. 71 00:03:11,788 --> 00:03:12,508 She is. 72 00:03:13,198 --> 00:03:13,798 32. 73 00:03:13,798 --> 00:03:16,828 She's the one that I came off the road for and I. 74 00:03:17,248 --> 00:03:18,808 My personal touch was on her. 75 00:03:19,078 --> 00:03:19,858 She's a beast. 76 00:03:19,888 --> 00:03:20,878 Chris: That's amazing. 77 00:03:21,238 --> 00:03:25,228 Dave: Yeah, she, Sarah is 32 and she's married to a guy named Matt. 78 00:03:25,678 --> 00:03:26,897 Matthew Mahoney. 79 00:03:27,347 --> 00:03:28,007 Nice kid. 80 00:03:28,037 --> 00:03:31,277 Nice kid, but my baby girl, I still, I'm still, when he 81 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:32,597 comes to my house, I do this. 82 00:03:33,077 --> 00:03:33,707 Chris: I got ya. 83 00:03:33,857 --> 00:03:34,157 Yeah. 84 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:35,177 Keep your eyes on him. 85 00:03:35,897 --> 00:03:37,247 Dave: We've been married five years. 86 00:03:37,637 --> 00:03:39,107 So what happened to your base in your voice? 87 00:03:39,137 --> 00:03:39,587 It went up. 88 00:03:40,007 --> 00:03:40,577 We've been married. 89 00:03:41,237 --> 00:03:41,582 Mr. 90 00:03:41,582 --> 00:03:41,927 Wilson. 91 00:03:41,927 --> 00:03:42,557 I said, yeah. 92 00:03:42,707 --> 00:03:43,457 But I still. 93 00:03:44,537 --> 00:03:45,107 We've got you. 94 00:03:45,317 --> 00:03:46,007 And my scopes. 95 00:03:46,127 --> 00:03:46,367 Then 96 00:03:46,697 --> 00:03:47,447 Zoom: Yeah, boy. 97 00:03:47,507 --> 00:03:49,787 Dave: also back to what your original question was. 98 00:03:49,877 --> 00:03:50,957 I've always known. 99 00:03:51,047 --> 00:03:54,857 I came into the Catholic church to Christen my second 100 00:03:54,857 --> 00:03:57,137 born Melissa and my parents. 101 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:58,037 I had sent to them. 102 00:03:58,165 --> 00:04:00,025 We had a rather large place. 103 00:04:00,205 --> 00:04:03,811 In Bel air and I came down the aisle of the church holding. 104 00:04:04,471 --> 00:04:09,481 My second born and my wife, my mother notch nudged my father. 105 00:04:10,021 --> 00:04:12,481 And she said my dad's name was Grady Wilson. 106 00:04:12,511 --> 00:04:13,411 That's where the character 107 00:04:13,441 --> 00:04:13,981 came from. 108 00:04:14,101 --> 00:04:15,001 Chris: that's amazing. 109 00:04:15,781 --> 00:04:17,492 Dave: And no, that's what his parents named him. 110 00:04:17,492 --> 00:04:18,542 So that's what he. 111 00:04:19,082 --> 00:04:19,952 What do you answered too? 112 00:04:20,972 --> 00:04:23,422 And my mom said But that's his nickname. 113 00:04:23,812 --> 00:04:25,012 The mine's going to preach. 114 00:04:25,162 --> 00:04:26,302 It's all over him. 115 00:04:27,302 --> 00:04:31,457 And I turned down a lot of money after my third series. 116 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:35,357 I was going to Florida to do my first. 117 00:04:35,687 --> 00:04:36,197 Revival. 118 00:04:36,197 --> 00:04:40,759 I had been studying, and I said to the Lord, Until I'm imbued with the 119 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:42,660 with the paraklete, with the pneuma. 120 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,870 The spirit of the living. 121 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,010 Creator. 122 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:48,810 I'm never going to eat again. 123 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,700 And I'm up. 124 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,070 And my tower in Belair up. 125 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:55,200 And in my bedroom and. 126 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:59,550 I took off all of my clothes and I just sat on the floor. 127 00:05:00,630 --> 00:05:02,550 And I'm about a day later. 128 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:06,390 A voice spoke to my heart and said, are you ready to receive. 129 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:07,320 Chris: Wow. 130 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:10,410 Dave: And I got up and I was trembling and I went into the bathroom. 131 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,360 Now my bathroom window was closed. 132 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,780 My bathroom looked out over a tennis court, but it was a small window. 133 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,770 It was closed. 134 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:19,080 And I went down on my face. 135 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,970 The way I came in the world. 136 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:22,920 And I felt this warm. 137 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:25,080 Breeze coming over me. 138 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:27,900 And I jumped to my feet and. 139 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:30,600 I put my clothes on and I ran downstairs. 140 00:05:30,667 --> 00:05:31,670 My, my family. 141 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:34,910 We're sitting at the breakfast table downstairs, having dinner. 142 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:37,790 And I wanted to say to them, Honey. 143 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:42,200 I just received the holy spirit and all of this strange language 144 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:43,610 started coming out of my mouth. 145 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:44,840 I couldn't start with. 146 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,890 I felt like I was regurgitating and my wife and my kids 147 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,590 looked at me like, oh my Lord. 148 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,700 He's gone. 149 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:53,480 Chris: No. 150 00:05:54,410 --> 00:05:56,000 Dave: And you know what they were right. 151 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:01,048 My wife would leave the house to drive the kids to school and she would come home. 152 00:06:01,408 --> 00:06:05,818 And I would be in, in the formal dining room, bathed in sweat. 153 00:06:06,418 --> 00:06:07,078 Preaching. 154 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:08,338 Just preaching. 155 00:06:08,338 --> 00:06:09,178 There was no one there. 156 00:06:10,138 --> 00:06:12,628 And she thought I had lost my mind. 157 00:06:13,228 --> 00:06:14,068 It was all over me. 158 00:06:14,068 --> 00:06:15,568 It wasn't something I could contain. 159 00:06:15,568 --> 00:06:17,938 So I knew when people said, why did you leave? 160 00:06:17,938 --> 00:06:19,528 Showbiz is when you went to the top. 161 00:06:19,708 --> 00:06:20,578 I never would do that. 162 00:06:20,578 --> 00:06:23,158 I said that's because I know what you don't know. 163 00:06:23,428 --> 00:06:25,288 I know the demonic force. 164 00:06:25,978 --> 00:06:28,978 That's all over the world, but specifically it's in areas 165 00:06:28,978 --> 00:06:30,988 like Hollywood Hollyweird. 166 00:06:31,618 --> 00:06:32,428 Hollywood. 167 00:06:33,388 --> 00:06:35,188 Is the, would that would just conjure on. 168 00:06:35,998 --> 00:06:36,598 Chris: Okay. 169 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,608 Dave: big sign that you see Hollywood. 170 00:06:38,668 --> 00:06:41,738 If you look up Hollywood, that's the, would that, which is conjured. 171 00:06:41,752 --> 00:06:43,612 And I saw all of that. 172 00:06:43,912 --> 00:06:47,062 You don't get to the top in the industry unless you have help. 173 00:06:47,872 --> 00:06:48,232 Chris: True. 174 00:06:48,388 --> 00:06:49,708 Dave: When I came from Vietnam. 175 00:06:50,638 --> 00:06:54,328 And when I got out of the military in 1968, 176 00:06:55,678 --> 00:06:58,528 I had to reestablish myself in the theater. 177 00:06:58,558 --> 00:06:59,848 I had grown up in the theater. 178 00:06:59,848 --> 00:07:04,104 I started on Broadway as a kid and two years went by, I was drafted and. 179 00:07:04,644 --> 00:07:06,984 I was reestablishing myself and I was doing. 180 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:09,184 Gut bucket theater. 181 00:07:09,184 --> 00:07:09,724 I was doing. 182 00:07:09,768 --> 00:07:13,308 Off-Broadway and then I started doing off-Broadway. 183 00:07:13,908 --> 00:07:17,424 And in those days, people like Al Pachino and the late Raul, Julia, 184 00:07:17,424 --> 00:07:20,574 who's a buddy of mine and we all did a film together in San Francisco. 185 00:07:20,584 --> 00:07:23,614 You don't get to the top in the industry and motion pictures 186 00:07:23,614 --> 00:07:24,904 and the recording industry. 187 00:07:25,114 --> 00:07:28,144 You do not get to the top simply because you're talented 188 00:07:28,384 --> 00:07:30,094 dis take that outta your mind. 189 00:07:30,334 --> 00:07:31,414 It doesn't work that way. 190 00:07:32,074 --> 00:07:37,624 So when I saw the underside, the underbelly of what I was involved in, 191 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:42,394 and I was at the top of my game, I did Sanford on NBC baby on back on CBS. 192 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,934 The new odd couple on ABC and universal studios. 193 00:07:46,294 --> 00:07:48,094 Had called me up and they were praising me. 194 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:49,128 Demond come on over. 195 00:07:49,158 --> 00:07:50,658 I said, I don't come to studios. 196 00:07:50,928 --> 00:07:52,098 Doing a regular hours. 197 00:07:52,098 --> 00:07:54,078 This should come tell us when you want to get here. 198 00:07:54,528 --> 00:07:58,396 I'll be there 4:30, 5:00, maybe 5: 30. 199 00:07:58,396 --> 00:07:59,067 We'll be here. 200 00:07:59,307 --> 00:08:02,607 I got there, there was the director, the producer, and they 201 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:03,697 were ready to start ahead of. 202 00:08:03,726 --> 00:08:07,356 Sit-com they praised me for five minutes and they said, this is a story 203 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:11,556 about a black doctor who was tired of the city, moved to the country. 204 00:08:12,276 --> 00:08:13,716 And the people didn't trust him. 205 00:08:13,716 --> 00:08:16,746 And so the kids started bringing their animals to him and he. 206 00:08:18,156 --> 00:08:19,896 He caught on in the community like that. 207 00:08:19,896 --> 00:08:20,976 They said, it's perfect for you. 208 00:08:21,006 --> 00:08:21,456 Demand. 209 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,390 You're a good guy. 210 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:25,130 And they made the mistake of saying. 211 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:27,020 What have you been doing lately? 212 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:28,880 Now what they didn't notice. 213 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,010 I'm standing there with in those days, surgery over Linday jeans, and so I had a 214 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:36,020 little bomber leather bomber jacket on me. 215 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:39,050 Didn't see my quarter pounder with cheese under my arm. 216 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,270 That's what I call my Bible. 217 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:41,900 In those days. 218 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Chris: Oh, okay. 219 00:08:43,130 --> 00:08:45,110 Dave: Hebrew Bible quarter pounder with cheese. 220 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,010 I didn't see that. 221 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,880 But they made the fatal error of saying, what have you been doing lately? 222 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:54,170 And there was a year between the new odd couple in these guys. 223 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,980 I just stood there in the middle of the floor to the producer, the 224 00:08:57,980 --> 00:09:01,340 executive at universal studios, the director, and two writers. 225 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,443 And preach the gospel unwanted down. 226 00:09:04,493 --> 00:09:06,863 No, just straight up, no ice. 227 00:09:06,945 --> 00:09:07,875 20 minutes. 228 00:09:08,955 --> 00:09:11,445 And they shook my hand and they weren't, they didn't say anything. 229 00:09:11,445 --> 00:09:12,885 They were like, what the heck? 230 00:09:13,425 --> 00:09:14,205 I get home. 231 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,065 And my wife said I had a, I had a. 232 00:09:17,235 --> 00:09:18,795 I had an English Jewish. 233 00:09:19,545 --> 00:09:24,315 Manager Bobby Littmann and my wife said, honey, you need to call your manager. 234 00:09:24,315 --> 00:09:24,855 And I called him. 235 00:09:24,885 --> 00:09:26,265 He said, oh, darling. 236 00:09:26,325 --> 00:09:27,495 What have you done? 237 00:09:27,547 --> 00:09:28,134 I said, what do you mean. 238 00:09:28,884 --> 00:09:31,584 These people were going to pay you 150,000. 239 00:09:32,394 --> 00:09:32,694 Chris: Oh, my 240 00:09:32,874 --> 00:09:35,064 Dave: They said the mind doesn't want to act. 241 00:09:35,094 --> 00:09:36,384 It wants to preach. 242 00:09:36,444 --> 00:09:37,074 And the lights. 243 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:39,444 There it is. 244 00:09:40,404 --> 00:09:42,924 And I had no idea how that was going to happen. 245 00:09:42,924 --> 00:09:47,574 I'm living in Bel air behind gates magic Johnson was down the hill. 246 00:09:47,574 --> 00:09:49,914 Jerry West was up the other end of the street. 247 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:53,814 I had no, the only thing I knew was the Catholic church in Reverend 248 00:09:53,814 --> 00:09:56,484 I, so I knew that you could see the dilemma that was a joke. 249 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:57,024 Hello. 250 00:09:57,504 --> 00:09:58,104 Is this on. 251 00:09:58,168 --> 00:09:58,438 Zoom: Huh. 252 00:09:59,578 --> 00:10:00,748 Dave: So you could see this dilemma. 253 00:10:00,778 --> 00:10:01,395 I I'm studying. 254 00:10:01,575 --> 00:10:03,345 The Lord is saying I'm going to open your ministry. 255 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:04,965 I had no idea how it was going to happen. 256 00:10:05,385 --> 00:10:08,145 I'm sitting in the breakfast room, my gardener rolled 257 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:10,065 down or Ramos it's to tired. 258 00:10:11,475 --> 00:10:12,495 Kicked over the line one. 259 00:10:12,495 --> 00:10:15,285 I said, you see this just like the adversary I'm trying to 260 00:10:15,285 --> 00:10:17,835 study and he's disrupting me. 261 00:10:17,865 --> 00:10:20,145 And then the spirit said, go witness to him. 262 00:10:20,985 --> 00:10:22,275 I didn't speak Spanish. 263 00:10:22,842 --> 00:10:23,562 I don't know. 264 00:10:23,892 --> 00:10:24,852 How I'm going to. 265 00:10:25,002 --> 00:10:25,602 Chris: my goodness. 266 00:10:25,962 --> 00:10:29,128 Dave: Conversed with this guy, so I go out there and I start talking. 267 00:10:29,368 --> 00:10:30,658 It's come on, guys, calm down. 268 00:10:30,688 --> 00:10:32,368 This is new play and this is serious. 269 00:10:32,406 --> 00:10:33,276 They go outside. 270 00:10:33,666 --> 00:10:35,916 And I started talking to this guy and I started. 271 00:10:36,606 --> 00:10:39,276 The Lord gave me word of knowledge into his life. 272 00:10:39,456 --> 00:10:41,599 I didn't know him for anything other than my gardener. 273 00:10:41,628 --> 00:10:41,808 Chris: Huh. 274 00:10:42,048 --> 00:10:43,668 Dave: And I said, roll down your married. 275 00:10:43,878 --> 00:10:44,148 Yes. 276 00:10:44,148 --> 00:10:45,888 He said, see, I said, where's your way. 277 00:10:45,888 --> 00:10:46,038 He's. 278 00:10:46,428 --> 00:10:46,818 He called. 279 00:10:46,848 --> 00:10:48,528 I said, are you faithful to your wife? 280 00:10:48,588 --> 00:10:49,278 You're not arguing. 281 00:10:49,548 --> 00:10:49,908 You said. 282 00:10:50,908 --> 00:10:51,598 Chris: Wow. 283 00:10:51,898 --> 00:10:54,148 Dave: And I said, how would you feel if she was doing 284 00:10:54,148 --> 00:10:55,798 that anyway, long story short. 285 00:10:56,578 --> 00:10:58,618 I asked him what he knew about the most high. 286 00:10:58,918 --> 00:10:59,338 He said. 287 00:10:59,638 --> 00:11:00,628 He wasn't in the church. 288 00:11:00,658 --> 00:11:01,478 I said, I want you to. 289 00:11:01,508 --> 00:11:02,468 Say the sinner's prayer. 290 00:11:02,468 --> 00:11:03,398 Will you do that for me? 291 00:11:03,428 --> 00:11:06,308 And the Lord will come into your life and bless you in your family. 292 00:11:06,998 --> 00:11:11,014 And he did And we knelt down in front of my in front of my tennis court or 293 00:11:11,014 --> 00:11:14,674 was it in front of the house And we note down and I let him in As soon as 294 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:18,514 Brian I said roll down I'm going to find you a Hispanic speaking church 295 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:25,084 I ran to the phone The only number I knew was seven One for 2000, which 296 00:11:25,084 --> 00:11:26,824 was Trinity broadcasting network. 297 00:11:27,784 --> 00:11:29,942 I stayed on the phone and it it was bam. 298 00:11:30,002 --> 00:11:32,312 I hung up and I tried to walk away the holy spirit to say, 299 00:11:32,342 --> 00:11:33,392 stay right there in a band. 300 00:11:33,456 --> 00:11:33,649 Bam. 301 00:11:34,219 --> 00:11:36,139 After a half an hour, I got you. 302 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:38,599 A lady came on the phone and she said, Trinity, broadcasting 303 00:11:38,599 --> 00:11:39,739 network, praise the Lord. 304 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:41,029 Who am I speaking with? 305 00:11:41,629 --> 00:11:44,159 I said, I just led my gardener to the Lord. 306 00:11:44,219 --> 00:11:45,629 No, she said, what can I help you with? 307 00:11:45,629 --> 00:11:47,579 I said, I just led my garden into the Lord. 308 00:11:47,969 --> 00:11:50,471 Can you Find me a Hispanic speaking church. 309 00:11:50,801 --> 00:11:52,751 I said, I know there's one in Culver city. 310 00:11:52,841 --> 00:11:53,421 And she said, 311 00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:55,341 Like women do, women are going to be a mother. 312 00:11:55,341 --> 00:11:57,651 I don't matter how old you are, how young you are. 313 00:11:57,711 --> 00:11:58,191 They going to be? 314 00:11:58,641 --> 00:11:59,091 Chris: Sure. 315 00:11:59,811 --> 00:12:02,241 Dave: And she said, your voice sounds awfully familiar. 316 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:03,541 Who am I speaking with? 317 00:12:03,571 --> 00:12:04,654 I said Demond Wilson. 318 00:12:04,654 --> 00:12:06,177 She said, oh my gosh. 319 00:12:07,197 --> 00:12:08,277 You're not going to believe this. 320 00:12:08,277 --> 00:12:09,147 I said, okay. 321 00:12:09,327 --> 00:12:09,897 She said, 322 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:16,357 Four years ago, we were, we came to California and we were turned 323 00:12:16,357 --> 00:12:18,637 around up in Laurel canyon. 324 00:12:19,207 --> 00:12:22,717 And we didn't know how to get out of the canyon and nobody would stop. 325 00:12:22,747 --> 00:12:23,887 She said, did you drive. 326 00:12:24,397 --> 00:12:25,297 A silver and black. 327 00:12:25,687 --> 00:12:28,267 A rolls Royce would be Mon on the plates. 328 00:12:29,107 --> 00:12:30,500 And I said you're not the police. 329 00:12:30,890 --> 00:12:32,840 She said, no, I said. 330 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:33,770 I did. 331 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:35,210 She said you stopped. 332 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:37,250 And you asked us. 333 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,810 If you could help us. 334 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:43,021 And we told you and you didn't tell us, you took us down to sunset Boulevard. 335 00:12:43,291 --> 00:12:45,691 I never forgot that she said, what are you doing now? 336 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:46,921 I said, I'm waiting on the Lord. 337 00:12:46,921 --> 00:12:49,201 He promised me some things and I'm waiting on him. 338 00:12:49,261 --> 00:12:50,011 Chris: Wow. 339 00:12:50,041 --> 00:12:51,031 Dave: And she said, hold on. 340 00:12:51,031 --> 00:12:55,111 She went to the phone and got Paul and Jan crouch and they got on, I did one 341 00:12:55,111 --> 00:12:57,631 show and my ministry just blew up world. 342 00:12:58,711 --> 00:12:59,491 Chris: Amazing. 343 00:12:59,789 --> 00:13:01,229 Dave: We serve an amazing God. 344 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,519 Chris: Amen. 345 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:03,479 Yes, we do. 346 00:13:04,019 --> 00:13:04,889 A hundred percent. 347 00:13:04,889 --> 00:13:05,309 We do 348 00:13:05,549 --> 00:13:05,939 Zoom: tell me 349 00:13:06,149 --> 00:13:06,599 Dave: that's. 350 00:13:07,169 --> 00:13:07,439 Huh. 351 00:13:07,619 --> 00:13:07,919 Chris: Tell me 352 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,219 Zoom: about your ministry and leadership and the things that you've had to. 353 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:14,246 grow through as you applied leadership in 354 00:13:14,306 --> 00:13:14,829 Chris: ministry. 355 00:13:14,829 --> 00:13:16,722 Dave: What happened was because of. 356 00:13:17,532 --> 00:13:18,792 Being an entity. 357 00:13:19,512 --> 00:13:21,582 I got invitations. 358 00:13:21,642 --> 00:13:23,842 I'm telling you guys, you got to read this book. 359 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,520 I got invitations from the top, from the leaders of all denominations. 360 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:31,170 From the church of God. 361 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:32,610 The big boys. 362 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,890 From the Pentecostal assemblies, the big boys, the Baptist circle, the big boys. 363 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:39,300 The paw. 364 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,538 You don't base your theology on a lesser doctrine. 365 00:13:42,078 --> 00:13:43,308 People said, oh, you're baptized. 366 00:13:43,368 --> 00:13:44,358 The name of Jesus. 367 00:13:45,078 --> 00:13:46,278 I said, yeah, he's one of them. 368 00:13:47,278 --> 00:13:48,868 There's a couple others who went in there with him. 369 00:13:48,988 --> 00:13:49,558 I don't mind doing. 370 00:13:50,558 --> 00:13:51,668 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious. 371 00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:53,288 Dave: I'm a funny guy. 372 00:13:53,318 --> 00:13:54,458 He's paying me for doing this. 373 00:13:54,563 --> 00:13:56,763 My calling was not as a pastor. 374 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:59,294 You got the five full ministerial gifts you got. 375 00:13:59,654 --> 00:14:00,014 You got. 376 00:14:00,524 --> 00:14:03,434 Prophets evangelists, pastors, teachers, 377 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,150 You have to abide in your calling. 378 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:07,340 And my calling was itinerant. 379 00:14:07,370 --> 00:14:11,420 I had to get out to the masses because the Lord didn't give me. 380 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:16,130 Notoriety for me to sit down in front of 150 people every Sunday. 381 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:17,980 Chris: I'd like to ask you something about Sanford. 382 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:19,870 And Going back to your first answer. 383 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:22,000 your father's name was Grady Wilson. 384 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Did you 385 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,100 get to name the character on Sanford and 386 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:25,240 Dave: We did rent and I, yes. 387 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:27,340 His name was John Hill rice. 388 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:30,880 Sanford his late brother was Fred Sanford. 389 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:31,600 Chris: Fringe 390 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:32,170 Dave: G Sanford. 391 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:33,670 The G stands for gravy. 392 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:36,040 If you got it, if you ain't got no gravy, that's not what. 393 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:38,050 Chris: I never knew 394 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:38,440 Dave: over here. 395 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:40,450 Chris: stood for, because it seemed to change all the time. 396 00:14:40,454 --> 00:14:41,674 Dave: It depends on what he needed. 397 00:14:41,674 --> 00:14:41,914 Zoom: Yeah. 398 00:14:42,034 --> 00:14:42,964 Dave: G stands for green. 399 00:14:43,204 --> 00:14:46,654 You got any gravy then when they would have stands for. 400 00:14:46,654 --> 00:14:48,034 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious. 401 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:49,514 Dave: we did. 402 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:50,564 We named a. 403 00:14:51,674 --> 00:14:52,064 Absolutely. 404 00:14:52,094 --> 00:14:53,514 And also a Lamont. 405 00:14:53,779 --> 00:14:54,329 When Redd. 406 00:14:54,379 --> 00:14:56,329 I ran away from home. 407 00:14:56,401 --> 00:14:58,081 He joined a tramp ban. 408 00:14:58,921 --> 00:15:00,601 And his best friend was named Lamont. 409 00:15:01,351 --> 00:15:03,181 Chris: So I know from reading your book, 410 00:15:03,181 --> 00:15:06,931 You two had such a close relationship even called you son for. 411 00:15:07,741 --> 00:15:09,541 The rest of his life, from what I remember. 412 00:15:10,031 --> 00:15:10,551 Dave: Yeah, Foxx. 413 00:15:10,594 --> 00:15:11,704 He heard me at the end. 414 00:15:11,764 --> 00:15:14,344 I never voiced it, but he hurt me at the end. 415 00:15:15,064 --> 00:15:19,654 I was walking down the hall and Abernathy, who was the anchor at NBC in those days. 416 00:15:19,737 --> 00:15:21,267 Came up to me and he said to mine, how. 417 00:15:21,717 --> 00:15:22,557 How does it feel? 418 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:22,917 I said. 419 00:15:23,517 --> 00:15:23,817 Huh. 420 00:15:24,597 --> 00:15:26,227 We're walking down the hall at NBC. 421 00:15:26,227 --> 00:15:30,056 He said, No the end of an era, I said, what are you talking about? 422 00:15:30,386 --> 00:15:32,366 He said you didn't read the trade papers today. 423 00:15:32,636 --> 00:15:34,736 I said, I don't read the trade papers any day. 424 00:15:34,766 --> 00:15:35,786 What did you talking about? 425 00:15:36,056 --> 00:15:36,836 He said, read ahead. 426 00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:37,736 It was on the front page. 427 00:15:38,216 --> 00:15:40,466 Sanford and son, this is it for him. 428 00:15:40,586 --> 00:15:41,546 This is last season. 429 00:15:41,726 --> 00:15:44,606 And I was hurt because we always ran things by each other. 430 00:15:44,936 --> 00:15:46,376 When we started out, it was. 431 00:15:47,376 --> 00:15:47,886 student. 432 00:15:48,426 --> 00:15:51,936 Then it became more of a father, son relationship. 433 00:15:51,966 --> 00:15:56,396 And then later on, after the third season, It was younger brother, older brother. 434 00:15:56,896 --> 00:15:57,136 I remember. 435 00:15:57,196 --> 00:15:58,856 I went to Foxx one day and said Redd. 436 00:15:58,935 --> 00:15:59,835 He said, yep. 437 00:16:00,105 --> 00:16:00,495 Whatever. 438 00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:02,585 The people would come to Redd this. 439 00:16:02,585 --> 00:16:04,048 At Foxx, we want to do this and that. 440 00:16:04,048 --> 00:16:05,695 Go ask my son, whatever you want to do. 441 00:16:06,695 --> 00:16:07,205 Take a nap. 442 00:16:08,015 --> 00:16:09,185 Chris: Oh, wow. 443 00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:10,325 Dave: The roles are reversed. 444 00:16:10,355 --> 00:16:11,825 That's the way it's supposed to be in life. 445 00:16:11,872 --> 00:16:15,628 Men where they had a strong dad, and now he's old and feeble and 446 00:16:15,958 --> 00:16:17,668 they leave them around in the mall. 447 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:21,118 And wiping his shin when he drops, whatever he's eating and. 448 00:16:21,688 --> 00:16:23,158 That's the way it's supposed to be. 449 00:16:24,328 --> 00:16:25,738 You're not supposed to bury your kids. 450 00:16:25,738 --> 00:16:26,788 They're supposed to bury you. 451 00:16:26,968 --> 00:16:27,448 Chris: That's true. 452 00:16:27,538 --> 00:16:30,388 Dave: And your sons are supposed to take over, unfortunately. 453 00:16:30,501 --> 00:16:32,481 I don't think that's going to happen in my household. 454 00:16:33,471 --> 00:16:34,371 Chris: I'm sorry to hear that. 455 00:16:34,371 --> 00:16:34,821 Dave: The sharp. 456 00:16:35,821 --> 00:16:37,561 Chris: I think we're just about running out of time. 457 00:16:37,591 --> 00:16:39,001 Wayne, do you have any questions for 458 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:41,191 Dave: A lot of people in the world are running out of time. 459 00:16:41,311 --> 00:16:42,211 Chris: I understand that. 460 00:16:43,381 --> 00:16:44,251 Zoom: And we all are. 461 00:16:44,611 --> 00:16:44,791 Dave: Man. 462 00:16:44,791 --> 00:16:45,421 That's the truth. 463 00:16:46,651 --> 00:16:48,781 I came out to gate like booboo, Shoop. 464 00:16:49,231 --> 00:16:50,401 You said, oh my gosh. 465 00:16:50,491 --> 00:16:51,721 He would lose them on us. 466 00:16:52,891 --> 00:16:54,031 Chris: I've enjoyed every second 467 00:16:54,031 --> 00:16:54,331 of it. 468 00:16:54,641 --> 00:16:55,408 Dave: I don't have a question. 469 00:16:55,498 --> 00:16:57,008 I mean it's just. 470 00:16:57,028 --> 00:17:00,388 It's been a privilege to listen like you're right. 471 00:17:00,418 --> 00:17:04,108 And your story, what you shared, what not I'm guessing in a million years. 472 00:17:04,738 --> 00:17:06,984 But, Since I've been a follower. 473 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:09,634 I've come across a lot of people. 474 00:17:10,114 --> 00:17:13,804 And they have a lot of different beliefs and not many. 475 00:17:13,864 --> 00:17:15,274 I've been able to articulate them. 476 00:17:15,934 --> 00:17:18,244 The way that you have saw, I really appreciate that. 477 00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:19,594 Thank you brother. 478 00:17:19,644 --> 00:17:22,678 It's a calling, I can't take any credit for anything that I've done. 479 00:17:23,158 --> 00:17:26,938 He trained me up in the theater and he said, now take those gifts. 480 00:17:27,538 --> 00:17:30,653 And take what I've placed in you, I prayed for. 481 00:17:31,253 --> 00:17:32,243 And I still do. 482 00:17:32,693 --> 00:17:35,303 Heavenly father in yeshua's, name, I pray for wisdom. 483 00:17:35,423 --> 00:17:36,503 I pray for knowledge. 484 00:17:36,593 --> 00:17:36,953 I pray for. 485 00:17:37,073 --> 00:17:37,943 Increased faith. 486 00:17:38,963 --> 00:17:39,953 I pray for healing. 487 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,603 I pray for miracles. 488 00:17:41,663 --> 00:17:41,753 I. 489 00:17:41,783 --> 00:17:42,893 Pray for discernment. 490 00:17:43,313 --> 00:17:46,523 Pray for the nine indwelling manifestation gifts. 491 00:17:46,853 --> 00:17:48,353 To loom large in me. 492 00:17:48,893 --> 00:17:51,708 And you have not because you asked not you received not because you 493 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:53,658 asked him if Lord give me a husband. 494 00:17:53,958 --> 00:17:56,628 Lord, give me a way, Lord, give me a new house. 495 00:17:56,838 --> 00:17:59,708 Lord, give me a car and people say the word says. 496 00:18:00,188 --> 00:18:02,828 Whatsoever things you ask, they shall be given. 497 00:18:02,978 --> 00:18:06,670 And I've been asking, I'm not getting anything because you're not asking for 498 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:09,040 the things that matter to the most high, 499 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:09,700 his. 500 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,450 Gifts. 501 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,870 Not this earthly mess. 502 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:14,530 Chris: Yes. 503 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,670 And that's what 504 00:18:15,670 --> 00:18:18,400 Dave: For weeks, I've been praying for the anointing. 505 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,590 Keep on. 506 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:21,490 Chris: That's amazing. 507 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:21,880 Dave: to go. 508 00:18:22,030 --> 00:18:22,480 Love you. 509 00:18:22,930 --> 00:18:24,370 Chris: Thank you so much. 510 00:18:24,550 --> 00:18:24,700 Dave: you. 511 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:25,480 Yeah. 512 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:26,500 Zoom: Have a blessed week. 513 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:26,830 Chris: Yeah. 514 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:27,460 Dave: You too.

He is a true Hollywood legend, star of TV’s Sanford and Son, Demond Wilson! Demond shares his calling from God and his experiences in Hollywood as a Christian.

Hey everybody. Welcome back to Lead 12:12. We’re excited that you’re hanging out with us. We have a great speaker today. We’re so excited about Chris. Tell us about our speaker today.

We are here with a true legend, the star of my favorite TV show Sanford.

and son.

It’s my honor to introduce. Demond Wilson! Thank you so much for joining us today.

It’s my pleasure in that.

I say hi to, to all of your listeners and the woman that you said was your wife to just.

We weren’t supposed to talk about that.

Yeah.

Yeah,

so Demond, I would love to hear your salvation story. Can you share that with us?

I’m so far beyond that, I grew up. Totally. Ensconced in Catholicism. I was an acolyte and my whole life is from the age of eight was centered around the church.

But I brought my mom. And my dad. Out of.

The dark side into the light, through the Catholic church now. One might say.

But you went from the dark side to a lighter, dark side which is true, but it, there are many roads that lead to to the most high and what the Lord saw in me. That I was born with was a talent. For entertaining. As a dancer and a singer and all of that. And. The love in my heart for him

so the Lord’s call was on my life. My kids were in private parochial school. We were living in. In Bel air. Beverly Hills and I have six adult progeny. I took the Lord. A little as a, literally when he said go forth. Be fruitful and multiply.

did

that. Yeah, you

We think so I have four adult.

Daughters. And two adult. My oldest is 48, Nicole. My, my second born Melissa, and they both live in Atlanta with my granddaughter. My second, Melissa is 40. Is 44. My oldest son, Christopher who hits a golf ball, 320 yards. He’s a beast. His kid. I put it off club in his hand when he was eight years old.

He is a monster and his brother Demonn Jr. Will never want it to be known as the Mon Jr. Until he started working in a corporate world and people say, Hey. Do you know who your dad is?

No. Do you know what whose name you have? And he said, yeah,

That’s my dad and they said, wow, we’re going to do business with you. So now he’s Goodman Jr. The rescue and he’s 41. Tabitha is 36. And my baby who’s been married five years and has her doctorate. She is. 32. She’s the one that I came off the road for and I. My personal touch was on her. She’s a beast.

That’s amazing.

Yeah, she, Sarah is 32 and she’s married to a guy named Matt. Matthew Mahoney. Nice kid. Nice kid, but my baby girl, I still, I’m still, when he comes to my house, I do this.

I got ya. Yeah. Keep your eyes on him.

We’ve been married five years. So what happened to your base in your voice? It went up. We’ve been married. Mr. Wilson. I said, yeah. But I still. We’ve got you. And my scopes.

Then

Yeah, boy.

also back to what your original question was. I’ve always known. I came into the Catholic church to Christen my second born Melissa and my parents. I had sent to them. We had a rather large place. In Bel air and I came down the aisle of the church holding. My second born and my wife, my mother notch nudged my father.

And she said my dad’s name was Grady Wilson. That’s where the character

came from.

that’s amazing.

And no, that’s what his parents named him. So that’s what he. What do you answered too? And my mom said But that’s his nickname. The mine’s going to preach. It’s all over him.

And I turned down a lot of money after my third series. I was going to Florida to do my first. Revival. I had been studying, and I said to the Lord, Until I’m imbued with the with the paraklete, with the pneuma. The spirit of the living. Creator. I’m never going to eat again.

And I’m up.

And my tower in Belair up. And in my bedroom and. I took off all of my clothes and I just sat on the floor. And I’m about a day later. A voice spoke to my heart and said, are you ready to receive.

Wow.

And I got up and I was trembling and I went into the bathroom. Now my bathroom window was closed. My bathroom looked out over a tennis court, but it was a small window. It was closed. And I went down on my face. The way I came in the world. And I felt this warm. Breeze coming over me. And I jumped to my feet and.

I put my clothes on and I ran downstairs. My, my family. We’re sitting at the breakfast table downstairs, having dinner. And I wanted to say to them, Honey. I just received the holy spirit and all of this strange language started coming out of my mouth. I couldn’t start with. I felt like I was regurgitating and my wife and my kids looked at me like, oh my Lord.

He’s gone.

No.

And you know what they were right. My wife would leave the house to drive the kids to school and she would come home. And I would be in, in the formal dining room, bathed in sweat. Preaching. Just preaching. There was no one there.

And she thought I had lost my mind. It was all over me. It wasn’t something I could contain. So I knew when people said, why did you leave? Showbiz is when you went to the top. I never would do that. I said that’s because I know what you don’t know. I know the demonic force. That’s all over the world, but specifically it’s in areas like Hollywood Hollyweird.

Hollywood.

Is the, would that would just conjure on.

Okay.

big sign that you see Hollywood.

If you look up Hollywood, that’s the, would that, which is conjured. And I saw all of that. You don’t get to the top in the industry unless you have help.

True.

When I came from Vietnam. And when I got out of the military in 1968,

I had to reestablish myself in the theater. I had grown up in the theater. I started on Broadway as a kid and two years went by, I was drafted and. I was reestablishing myself and I was doing.

Gut bucket theater. I was doing.

Off-Broadway and then I started doing off-Broadway. And in those days, people like Al Pachino and the late Raul, Julia, who’s a buddy of mine and we all did a film together in San Francisco. You don’t get to the top in the industry and motion pictures and the recording industry. You do not get to the top simply because you’re talented dis take that outta your mind.

It doesn’t work that way. So when I saw the underside, the underbelly of what I was involved in, and I was at the top of my game, I did Sanford on NBC baby on back on CBS.

The new odd couple on ABC and universal studios. Had called me up and they were praising me. Demond come on over. I said, I don’t come to studios. Doing a regular hours. This should come tell us when you want to get here.

I’ll be there 4:30, 5:00, maybe 5: 30. We’ll be here. I got there, there was the director, the producer, and they were ready to start ahead of. Sit-com they praised me for five minutes and they said, this is a story about a black doctor who was tired of the city, moved to the country.

And the people didn’t trust him. And so the kids started bringing their animals to him and he. He caught on in the community like that. They said, it’s perfect for you. Demand. You’re a good guy.

And they made the mistake of saying. What have you been doing lately? Now what they didn’t notice. I’m standing there with in those days, surgery over Linday jeans, and so I had a little bomber leather bomber jacket on me. Didn’t see my quarter pounder with cheese under my arm. That’s what I call my Bible. In those days.

Oh, okay.

Hebrew Bible quarter pounder with cheese. I didn’t see that. But they made the fatal error of saying, what have you been doing lately? And there was a year between the new odd couple in these guys. I just stood there in the middle of the floor to the producer, the executive at universal studios, the director, and two writers.

And preach the gospel unwanted down. No, just straight up, no ice. 20 minutes.

And they shook my hand and they weren’t, they didn’t say anything. They were like, what the heck? I get home. And my wife said I had a, I had a. I had an English Jewish. Manager Bobby Littmann and my wife said, honey, you need to call your manager. And I called him. He said, oh, darling. What have you done?

I said, what do you mean. These people were going to pay you 150,000.

Oh, my

They said the mind doesn’t want to act. It wants to preach. And the lights. There it is. And I had no idea how that was going to happen. I’m living in Bel air behind gates magic Johnson was down the hill. Jerry West was up the other end of the street. I had no, the only thing I knew was the Catholic church in Reverend I, so I knew that you could see the dilemma that was a joke. Hello.

Is this on.

Huh.

So you could see this dilemma. I I’m studying. The Lord is saying I’m going to open your ministry. I had no idea how it was going to happen. I’m sitting in the breakfast room, my gardener rolled down or Ramos it’s to tired.

Kicked over the line one. I said, you see this just like the adversary I’m trying to study and he’s disrupting me. And then the spirit said, go witness to him. I didn’t speak Spanish.

I don’t know. How I’m going to.

my goodness.

Conversed with this guy, so I go out there and I start talking. It’s come on, guys, calm down. This is new play and this is serious. They go outside. And I started talking to this guy and I started. The Lord gave me word of knowledge into his life. I didn’t know him for anything other than my gardener.

Huh.

And I said, roll down your married. Yes. He said, see, I said, where’s your way. He’s. He called. I said, are you faithful to your wife? You’re not arguing. You said.

Wow.

And I said, how would you feel if she was doing that anyway, long story short. I asked him what he knew about the most high. He said. He wasn’t in the church. I said, I want you to.

Say the sinner’s prayer. Will you do that for me? And the Lord will come into your life and bless you in your family. And he did And we knelt down in front of my in front of my tennis court or was it in front of the house And we note down and I let him in As soon as Brian I said roll down I’m going to find you a Hispanic speaking church

I ran to the phone The only number I knew was seven One for 2000, which was Trinity broadcasting network. I stayed on the phone and it it was bam. I hung up and I tried to walk away the holy spirit to say, stay right there in a band. Bam. After a half an hour, I got you. A lady came on the phone and she said, Trinity, broadcasting network, praise the Lord.

Who am I speaking with? I said, I just led my gardener to the Lord. No, she said, what can I help you with? I said, I just led my garden into the Lord. Can you Find me a Hispanic speaking church. I said, I know there’s one in Culver city. And she said,

Like women do, women are going to be a mother. I don’t matter how old you are, how young you are. They going to be?

Sure.

And she said, your voice sounds awfully familiar. Who am I speaking with? I said Demond Wilson. She said, oh my gosh. You’re not going to believe this. I said, okay. She said,

Four years ago, we were, we came to California and we were turned around up in Laurel canyon. And we didn’t know how to get out of the canyon and nobody would stop. She said, did you drive. A silver and black. A rolls Royce would be Mon on the plates. And I said you’re not the police. She said, no, I said.

I did. She said you stopped. And you asked us. If you could help us. And we told you and you didn’t tell us, you took us down to sunset Boulevard. I never forgot that she said, what are you doing now? I said, I’m waiting on the Lord. He promised me some things and I’m waiting on him.

Wow.

And she said, hold on. She went to the phone and got Paul and Jan crouch and they got on, I did one show and my ministry just blew up world.

Amazing.

We serve an amazing God.

Amen.

Yes, we do.

A hundred percent. We do

tell me

that’s. Huh.

Tell me

about your ministry and leadership and the things that you’ve had to.

grow through as you applied leadership in

ministry.

What happened was because of. Being an entity. I got invitations. I’m telling you guys, you got to read this book. I got invitations from the top, from the leaders of all denominations. From the church of God. The big boys.

From the Pentecostal assemblies, the big boys, the Baptist circle, the big boys. The paw. You don’t base your theology on a lesser doctrine. People said, oh, you’re baptized. The name of Jesus.

I said, yeah, he’s one of them.

There’s a couple others who went in there with him. I don’t mind doing.

Oh, that’s hilarious.

I’m a funny guy. He’s paying me for doing this.

My calling was not as a pastor. You got the five full ministerial gifts you got. You got. Prophets evangelists, pastors, teachers,

You have to abide in your calling. And my calling was itinerant. I had to get out to the masses because the Lord didn’t give me. Notoriety for me to sit down in front of 150 people every Sunday.

I’d like to ask you something about Sanford.

And Going back to your first answer. your father’s name was Grady Wilson. Did you

get to name the character on Sanford and

We did rent and I, yes. His name was John Hill rice. Sanford his late brother was Fred Sanford.

Fringe

G Sanford. The G stands for gravy. If you got it, if you ain’t got no gravy, that’s not what.

I never knew

over here.

stood for, because it seemed to change all the time.

It depends on what he needed.

Yeah.

G stands for green. You got any gravy then when they would have stands for.

Oh, that’s hilarious.

we did. We named a. Absolutely. And also a Lamont. When Redd. I ran away from home. He joined a tramp ban.

And his best friend was named Lamont.

So I know from reading your book,

You two had such a close relationship even called you son for. The rest of his life, from what I remember.

Yeah, Foxx. He heard me at the end. I never voiced it, but he hurt me at the end. I was walking down the hall and Abernathy, who was the anchor at NBC in those days. Came up to me and he said to mine, how. How does it feel? I said. Huh. We’re walking down the hall at NBC. He said, No the end of an era, I said, what are you talking about?

He said you didn’t read the trade papers today. I said, I don’t read the trade papers any day. What did you talking about? He said, read ahead. It was on the front page.

Sanford and son, this is it for him. This is last season. And I was hurt because we always ran things by each other. When we started out, it was. student. Then it became more of a father, son relationship. And then later on, after the third season, It was younger brother, older brother.

I remember. I went to Foxx one day and said Redd. He said, yep. Whatever. The people would come to Redd this. At Foxx, we want to do this and that. Go ask my son, whatever you want to do.

Take a nap.

Oh, wow.

The roles are reversed. That’s the way it’s supposed to be in life.

Men where they had a strong dad, and now he’s old and feeble and they leave them around in the mall. And wiping his shin when he drops, whatever he’s eating and. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. You’re not supposed to bury your kids. They’re supposed to bury you.

That’s true.

And your sons are supposed to take over, unfortunately. I don’t think that’s going to happen in my household.

I’m sorry to hear that.

The sharp.

I think we’re just about running out of time. Wayne, do you have any questions for

A lot of people in the world are running out of time.

I understand that.

And we all are.

Man. That’s the truth. I came out to gate like booboo, Shoop. You said, oh my gosh. He would lose them on us.

I’ve enjoyed every second

of it.

I don’t have a question. I mean it’s just. It’s been a privilege to listen like you’re right. And your story, what you shared, what not I’m guessing in a million years. But, Since I’ve been a follower.

I’ve come across a lot of people. And they have a lot of different beliefs and not many. I’ve been able to articulate them. The way that you have saw, I really appreciate that. Thank you brother. It’s a calling, I can’t take any credit for anything that I’ve done. He trained me up in the theater and he said, now take those gifts.

And take what I’ve placed in you, I prayed for. And I still do. Heavenly father in yeshua’s, name, I pray for wisdom. I pray for knowledge. I pray for. Increased faith. I pray for healing. I pray for miracles. I. Pray for discernment. Pray for the nine indwelling manifestation gifts.

To loom large in me. And you have not because you asked not you received not because you asked him if Lord give me a husband. Lord, give me a way, Lord, give me a new house.

Lord, give me a car and people say the word says.

Whatsoever things you ask, they shall be given. And I’ve been asking, I’m not getting anything because you’re not asking for the things that matter to the most high,

his. Gifts.

Not this earthly mess.

Yes. And that’s what

For weeks, I’ve been praying for the anointing. Keep on.

That’s amazing.

to go.

Love you.

Thank you so much.

you. Yeah.

Have a blessed week.

Yeah.

You too.

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