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1 00:00:33,072 --> 00:00:34,002 Zoom: Hey everybody.2 00:00:34,002 --> 00:00:36,172 Welcome back to Lead 12:12.3 00:00:36,192 --> 00:00:38,022 We're excited that you're hanging out with us.4 00:00:38,022 --> 00:00:39,702 We have a great speaker today.5 00:00:39,702 --> 00:00:41,592 We're so excited about Chris.6 00:00:41,592 --> 00:00:43,092 Tell us about our speaker today.7 00:00:43,122 --> 00:00:46,932 Chris: We are here with a true legend, the star of my favorite TV show Sanford.8 00:00:46,932 --> 00:00:47,442 and son.9 00:00:47,492 --> 00:00:49,052 It's my honor to introduce.10 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:50,012 Demond Wilson!11 00:00:50,012 --> 00:00:52,022 Thank you so much for joining us today.12 00:00:52,422 --> 00:00:53,476 Dave: It's my pleasure in that.13 00:00:53,686 --> 00:00:56,956 I say hi to, to all of your listeners and the woman that14 00:00:56,956 --> 00:00:58,816 you said was your wife to just.15 00:00:59,116 --> 00:01:00,676 Chris: We weren't supposed to talk about that.16 00:01:00,886 --> 00:01:01,186 Zoom: Yeah.17 00:01:02,186 --> 00:01:02,516 Dave: Yeah,18 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:05,686 Chris: so Demond, I would love to hear your salvation story.19 00:01:05,686 --> 00:01:06,886 Can you share that with us?20 00:01:07,886 --> 00:01:10,098 Dave: I'm so far beyond that, I grew up.21 00:01:11,358 --> 00:01:11,778 Totally.22 00:01:11,778 --> 00:01:13,248 Ensconced in Catholicism.23 00:01:13,788 --> 00:01:17,789 I was an acolyte and my whole life is from the age of eight24 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:19,649 was centered around the church.25 00:01:19,729 --> 00:01:22,429 But I brought my mom.26 00:01:22,729 --> 00:01:23,629 And my dad.27 00:01:24,889 --> 00:01:25,729 Out of.28 00:01:26,729 --> 00:01:32,039 The dark side into the light, through the Catholic church now.29 00:01:32,729 --> 00:01:33,659 One might say.30 00:01:34,199 --> 00:01:39,114 But you went from the dark side to a lighter, dark side which is true, but it,31 00:01:39,114 --> 00:01:44,265 there are many roads that lead to to the most high and what the Lord saw in me.32 00:01:44,715 --> 00:01:47,595 That I was born with was a talent.33 00:01:47,895 --> 00:01:49,605 For entertaining.34 00:01:50,325 --> 00:01:52,545 As a dancer and a singer and all of that.35 00:01:53,385 --> 00:01:53,865 And.36 00:01:54,585 --> 00:01:56,295 The love in my heart for him37 00:01:56,395 --> 00:01:58,375 so the Lord's call was on my life.38 00:01:58,466 --> 00:02:00,476 My kids were in private parochial school.39 00:02:00,476 --> 00:02:01,436 We were living in.40 00:02:01,586 --> 00:02:02,306 In Bel air.41 00:02:02,726 --> 00:02:05,557 Beverly Hills and I have six adult progeny.42 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:06,464 I took the Lord.43 00:02:06,614 --> 00:02:09,254 A little as a, literally when he said go forth.44 00:02:09,824 --> 00:02:11,264 Be fruitful and multiply.45 00:02:11,294 --> 00:02:11,474 Chris: did46 00:02:11,534 --> 00:02:11,684 Zoom: that.47 00:02:11,774 --> 00:02:12,194 Yeah, you48 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:15,236 Dave: We think so I have four adult.49 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,136 Daughters.50 00:02:17,586 --> 00:02:20,046 And two adult.51 00:02:20,076 --> 00:02:22,876 My oldest is 48, Nicole.52 00:02:22,886 --> 00:02:27,356 My, my second born Melissa, and they both live in Atlanta with my granddaughter.53 00:02:27,836 --> 00:02:30,026 My second, Melissa is 40.54 00:02:30,176 --> 00:02:31,226 Is 44.55 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,976 My oldest son, Christopher who hits a golf ball, 320 yards.56 00:02:35,006 --> 00:02:36,056 He's a beast.57 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:36,596 His kid.58 00:02:37,196 --> 00:02:41,036 I put it off club in his hand when he was eight years old.59 00:02:41,636 --> 00:02:44,846 He is a monster and his brother Demonn Jr.60 00:02:45,086 --> 00:02:47,396 Will never want it to be known as the Mon Jr.61 00:02:47,726 --> 00:02:51,176 Until he started working in a corporate world and people say, Hey.62 00:02:51,626 --> 00:02:52,826 Do you know who your dad is?63 00:02:53,036 --> 00:02:53,246 No.64 00:02:53,313 --> 00:02:55,069 Do you know what whose name you have?65 00:02:55,519 --> 00:02:56,329 And he said, yeah,66 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,679 That's my dad and they said, wow, we're going to do business with you.67 00:03:00,679 --> 00:03:02,459 So now he's Goodman Jr.68 00:03:02,485 --> 00:03:05,437 The rescue and he's 41.69 00:03:05,475 --> 00:03:08,068 Tabitha is 36.70 00:03:08,458 --> 00:03:11,788 And my baby who's been married five years and has her doctorate.71 00:03:11,788 --> 00:03:12,508 She is.72 00:03:13,198 --> 00:03:13,798 32.73 00:03:13,798 --> 00:03:16,828 She's the one that I came off the road for and I.74 00:03:17,248 --> 00:03:18,808 My personal touch was on her.75 00:03:19,078 --> 00:03:19,858 She's a beast.76 00:03:19,888 --> 00:03:20,878 Chris: That's amazing.77 00:03:21,238 --> 00:03:25,228 Dave: Yeah, she, Sarah is 32 and she's married to a guy named Matt.78 00:03:25,678 --> 00:03:26,897 Matthew Mahoney.79 00:03:27,347 --> 00:03:28,007 Nice kid.80 00:03:28,037 --> 00:03:31,277 Nice kid, but my baby girl, I still, I'm still, when he81 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:32,597 comes to my house, I do this.82 00:03:33,077 --> 00:03:33,707 Chris: I got ya.83 00:03:33,857 --> 00:03:34,157 Yeah.84 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:35,177 Keep your eyes on him.85 00:03:35,897 --> 00:03:37,247 Dave: We've been married five years.86 00:03:37,637 --> 00:03:39,107 So what happened to your base in your voice?87 00:03:39,137 --> 00:03:39,587 It went up.88 00:03:40,007 --> 00:03:40,577 We've been married.89 00:03:41,237 --> 00:03:41,582 Mr.90 00:03:41,582 --> 00:03:41,927 Wilson.91 00:03:41,927 --> 00:03:42,557 I said, yeah.92 00:03:42,707 --> 00:03:43,457 But I still.93 00:03:44,537 --> 00:03:45,107 We've got you.94 00:03:45,317 --> 00:03:46,007 And my scopes.95 00:03:46,127 --> 00:03:46,367 Then96 00:03:46,697 --> 00:03:47,447 Zoom: Yeah, boy.97 00:03:47,507 --> 00:03:49,787 Dave: also back to what your original question was.98 00:03:49,877 --> 00:03:50,957 I've always known.99 00:03:51,047 --> 00:03:54,857 I came into the Catholic church to Christen my second100 00:03:54,857 --> 00:03:57,137 born Melissa and my parents.101 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:58,037 I had sent to them.102 00:03:58,165 --> 00:04:00,025 We had a rather large place.103 00:04:00,205 --> 00:04:03,811 In Bel air and I came down the aisle of the church holding.104 00:04:04,471 --> 00:04:09,481 My second born and my wife, my mother notch nudged my father.105 00:04:10,021 --> 00:04:12,481 And she said my dad's name was Grady Wilson.106 00:04:12,511 --> 00:04:13,411 That's where the character107 00:04:13,441 --> 00:04:13,981 came from.108 00:04:14,101 --> 00:04:15,001 Chris: that's amazing.109 00:04:15,781 --> 00:04:17,492 Dave: And no, that's what his parents named him.110 00:04:17,492 --> 00:04:18,542 So that's what he.111 00:04:19,082 --> 00:04:19,952 What do you answered too?112 00:04:20,972 --> 00:04:23,422 And my mom said But that's his nickname.113 00:04:23,812 --> 00:04:25,012 The mine's going to preach.114 00:04:25,162 --> 00:04:26,302 It's all over him.115 00:04:27,302 --> 00:04:31,457 And I turned down a lot of money after my third series.116 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:35,357 I was going to Florida to do my first.117 00:04:35,687 --> 00:04:36,197 Revival.118 00:04:36,197 --> 00:04:40,759 I had been studying, and I said to the Lord, Until I'm imbued with the119 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:42,660 with the paraklete, with the pneuma.120 00:04:43,020 --> 00:04:45,870 The spirit of the living.121 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,010 Creator.122 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:48,810 I'm never going to eat again.123 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,700 And I'm up.124 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,070 And my tower in Belair up.125 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:55,200 And in my bedroom and.126 00:04:56,130 --> 00:04:59,550 I took off all of my clothes and I just sat on the floor.127 00:05:00,630 --> 00:05:02,550 And I'm about a day later.128 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:06,390 A voice spoke to my heart and said, are you ready to receive.129 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:07,320 Chris: Wow.130 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:10,410 Dave: And I got up and I was trembling and I went into the bathroom.131 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:12,360 Now my bathroom window was closed.132 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,780 My bathroom looked out over a tennis court, but it was a small window.133 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,770 It was closed.134 00:05:17,460 --> 00:05:19,080 And I went down on my face.135 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,970 The way I came in the world.136 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:22,920 And I felt this warm.137 00:05:23,340 --> 00:05:25,080 Breeze coming over me.138 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:27,900 And I jumped to my feet and.139 00:05:28,410 --> 00:05:30,600 I put my clothes on and I ran downstairs.140 00:05:30,667 --> 00:05:31,670 My, my family.141 00:05:31,970 --> 00:05:34,910 We're sitting at the breakfast table downstairs, having dinner.142 00:05:36,020 --> 00:05:37,790 And I wanted to say to them, Honey.143 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:42,200 I just received the holy spirit and all of this strange language144 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:43,610 started coming out of my mouth.145 00:05:43,850 --> 00:05:44,840 I couldn't start with.146 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,890 I felt like I was regurgitating and my wife and my kids147 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:51,590 looked at me like, oh my Lord.148 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:52,700 He's gone.149 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:53,480 Chris: No.150 00:05:54,410 --> 00:05:56,000 Dave: And you know what they were right.151 00:05:56,810 --> 00:06:01,048 My wife would leave the house to drive the kids to school and she would come home.152 00:06:01,408 --> 00:06:05,818 And I would be in, in the formal dining room, bathed in sweat.153 00:06:06,418 --> 00:06:07,078 Preaching.154 00:06:07,588 --> 00:06:08,338 Just preaching.155 00:06:08,338 --> 00:06:09,178 There was no one there.156 00:06:10,138 --> 00:06:12,628 And she thought I had lost my mind.157 00:06:13,228 --> 00:06:14,068 It was all over me.158 00:06:14,068 --> 00:06:15,568 It wasn't something I could contain.159 00:06:15,568 --> 00:06:17,938 So I knew when people said, why did you leave?160 00:06:17,938 --> 00:06:19,528 Showbiz is when you went to the top.161 00:06:19,708 --> 00:06:20,578 I never would do that.162 00:06:20,578 --> 00:06:23,158 I said that's because I know what you don't know.163 00:06:23,428 --> 00:06:25,288 I know the demonic force.164 00:06:25,978 --> 00:06:28,978 That's all over the world, but specifically it's in areas165 00:06:28,978 --> 00:06:30,988 like Hollywood Hollyweird.166 00:06:31,618 --> 00:06:32,428 Hollywood.167 00:06:33,388 --> 00:06:35,188 Is the, would that would just conjure on.168 00:06:35,998 --> 00:06:36,598 Chris: Okay.169 00:06:36,688 --> 00:06:38,608 Dave: big sign that you see Hollywood.170 00:06:38,668 --> 00:06:41,738 If you look up Hollywood, that's the, would that, which is conjured.171 00:06:41,752 --> 00:06:43,612 And I saw all of that.172 00:06:43,912 --> 00:06:47,062 You don't get to the top in the industry unless you have help.173 00:06:47,872 --> 00:06:48,232 Chris: True.174 00:06:48,388 --> 00:06:49,708 Dave: When I came from Vietnam.175 00:06:50,638 --> 00:06:54,328 And when I got out of the military in 1968,176 00:06:55,678 --> 00:06:58,528 I had to reestablish myself in the theater.177 00:06:58,558 --> 00:06:59,848 I had grown up in the theater.178 00:06:59,848 --> 00:07:04,104 I started on Broadway as a kid and two years went by, I was drafted and.179 00:07:04,644 --> 00:07:06,984 I was reestablishing myself and I was doing.180 00:07:07,984 --> 00:07:09,184 Gut bucket theater.181 00:07:09,184 --> 00:07:09,724 I was doing.182 00:07:09,768 --> 00:07:13,308 Off-Broadway and then I started doing off-Broadway.183 00:07:13,908 --> 00:07:17,424 And in those days, people like Al Pachino and the late Raul, Julia,184 00:07:17,424 --> 00:07:20,574 who's a buddy of mine and we all did a film together in San Francisco.185 00:07:20,584 --> 00:07:23,614 You don't get to the top in the industry and motion pictures186 00:07:23,614 --> 00:07:24,904 and the recording industry.187 00:07:25,114 --> 00:07:28,144 You do not get to the top simply because you're talented188 00:07:28,384 --> 00:07:30,094 dis take that outta your mind.189 00:07:30,334 --> 00:07:31,414 It doesn't work that way.190 00:07:32,074 --> 00:07:37,624 So when I saw the underside, the underbelly of what I was involved in,191 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:42,394 and I was at the top of my game, I did Sanford on NBC baby on back on CBS.192 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,934 The new odd couple on ABC and universal studios.193 00:07:46,294 --> 00:07:48,094 Had called me up and they were praising me.194 00:07:48,168 --> 00:07:49,128 Demond come on over.195 00:07:49,158 --> 00:07:50,658 I said, I don't come to studios.196 00:07:50,928 --> 00:07:52,098 Doing a regular hours.197 00:07:52,098 --> 00:07:54,078 This should come tell us when you want to get here.198 00:07:54,528 --> 00:07:58,396 I'll be there 4:30, 5:00, maybe 5: 30.199 00:07:58,396 --> 00:07:59,067 We'll be here.200 00:07:59,307 --> 00:08:02,607 I got there, there was the director, the producer, and they201 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:03,697 were ready to start ahead of.202 00:08:03,726 --> 00:08:07,356 Sit-com they praised me for five minutes and they said, this is a story203 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:11,556 about a black doctor who was tired of the city, moved to the country.204 00:08:12,276 --> 00:08:13,716 And the people didn't trust him.205 00:08:13,716 --> 00:08:16,746 And so the kids started bringing their animals to him and he.206 00:08:18,156 --> 00:08:19,896 He caught on in the community like that.207 00:08:19,896 --> 00:08:20,976 They said, it's perfect for you.208 00:08:21,006 --> 00:08:21,456 Demand.209 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,390 You're a good guy.210 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:25,130 And they made the mistake of saying.211 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:27,020 What have you been doing lately?212 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:28,880 Now what they didn't notice.213 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:34,010 I'm standing there with in those days, surgery over Linday jeans, and so I had a214 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:36,020 little bomber leather bomber jacket on me.215 00:08:36,020 --> 00:08:39,050 Didn't see my quarter pounder with cheese under my arm.216 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,270 That's what I call my Bible.217 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:41,900 In those days.218 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Chris: Oh, okay.219 00:08:43,130 --> 00:08:45,110 Dave: Hebrew Bible quarter pounder with cheese.220 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,010 I didn't see that.221 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,880 But they made the fatal error of saying, what have you been doing lately?222 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:54,170 And there was a year between the new odd couple in these guys.223 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:57,980 I just stood there in the middle of the floor to the producer, the224 00:08:57,980 --> 00:09:01,340 executive at universal studios, the director, and two writers.225 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,443 And preach the gospel unwanted down.226 00:09:04,493 --> 00:09:06,863 No, just straight up, no ice.227 00:09:06,945 --> 00:09:07,875 20 minutes.228 00:09:08,955 --> 00:09:11,445 And they shook my hand and they weren't, they didn't say anything.229 00:09:11,445 --> 00:09:12,885 They were like, what the heck?230 00:09:13,425 --> 00:09:14,205 I get home.231 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,065 And my wife said I had a, I had a.232 00:09:17,235 --> 00:09:18,795 I had an English Jewish.233 00:09:19,545 --> 00:09:24,315 Manager Bobby Littmann and my wife said, honey, you need to call your manager.234 00:09:24,315 --> 00:09:24,855 And I called him.235 00:09:24,885 --> 00:09:26,265 He said, oh, darling.236 00:09:26,325 --> 00:09:27,495 What have you done?237 00:09:27,547 --> 00:09:28,134 I said, what do you mean.238 00:09:28,884 --> 00:09:31,584 These people were going to pay you 150,000.239 00:09:32,394 --> 00:09:32,694 Chris: Oh, my240 00:09:32,874 --> 00:09:35,064 Dave: They said the mind doesn't want to act.241 00:09:35,094 --> 00:09:36,384 It wants to preach.242 00:09:36,444 --> 00:09:37,074 And the lights.243 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:39,444 There it is.244 00:09:40,404 --> 00:09:42,924 And I had no idea how that was going to happen.245 00:09:42,924 --> 00:09:47,574 I'm living in Bel air behind gates magic Johnson was down the hill.246 00:09:47,574 --> 00:09:49,914 Jerry West was up the other end of the street.247 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:53,814 I had no, the only thing I knew was the Catholic church in Reverend248 00:09:53,814 --> 00:09:56,484 I, so I knew that you could see the dilemma that was a joke.249 00:09:56,544 --> 00:09:57,024 Hello.250 00:09:57,504 --> 00:09:58,104 Is this on.251 00:09:58,168 --> 00:09:58,438 Zoom: Huh.252 00:09:59,578 --> 00:10:00,748 Dave: So you could see this dilemma.253 00:10:00,778 --> 00:10:01,395 I I'm studying.254 00:10:01,575 --> 00:10:03,345 The Lord is saying I'm going to open your ministry.255 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:04,965 I had no idea how it was going to happen.256 00:10:05,385 --> 00:10:08,145 I'm sitting in the breakfast room, my gardener rolled257 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:10,065 down or Ramos it's to tired.258 00:10:11,475 --> 00:10:12,495 Kicked over the line one.259 00:10:12,495 --> 00:10:15,285 I said, you see this just like the adversary I'm trying to260 00:10:15,285 --> 00:10:17,835 study and he's disrupting me.261 00:10:17,865 --> 00:10:20,145 And then the spirit said, go witness to him.262 00:10:20,985 --> 00:10:22,275 I didn't speak Spanish.263 00:10:22,842 --> 00:10:23,562 I don't know.264 00:10:23,892 --> 00:10:24,852 How I'm going to.265 00:10:25,002 --> 00:10:25,602 Chris: my goodness.266 00:10:25,962 --> 00:10:29,128 Dave: Conversed with this guy, so I go out there and I start talking.267 00:10:29,368 --> 00:10:30,658 It's come on, guys, calm down.268 00:10:30,688 --> 00:10:32,368 This is new play and this is serious.269 00:10:32,406 --> 00:10:33,276 They go outside.270 00:10:33,666 --> 00:10:35,916 And I started talking to this guy and I started.271 00:10:36,606 --> 00:10:39,276 The Lord gave me word of knowledge into his life.272 00:10:39,456 --> 00:10:41,599 I didn't know him for anything other than my gardener.273 00:10:41,628 --> 00:10:41,808 Chris: Huh.274 00:10:42,048 --> 00:10:43,668 Dave: And I said, roll down your married.275 00:10:43,878 --> 00:10:44,148 Yes.276 00:10:44,148 --> 00:10:45,888 He said, see, I said, where's your way.277 00:10:45,888 --> 00:10:46,038 He's.278 00:10:46,428 --> 00:10:46,818 He called.279 00:10:46,848 --> 00:10:48,528 I said, are you faithful to your wife?280 00:10:48,588 --> 00:10:49,278 You're not arguing.281 00:10:49,548 --> 00:10:49,908 You said.282 00:10:50,908 --> 00:10:51,598 Chris: Wow.283 00:10:51,898 --> 00:10:54,148 Dave: And I said, how would you feel if she was doing284 00:10:54,148 --> 00:10:55,798 that anyway, long story short.285 00:10:56,578 --> 00:10:58,618 I asked him what he knew about the most high.286 00:10:58,918 --> 00:10:59,338 He said.287 00:10:59,638 --> 00:11:00,628 He wasn't in the church.288 00:11:00,658 --> 00:11:01,478 I said, I want you to.289 00:11:01,508 --> 00:11:02,468 Say the sinner's prayer.290 00:11:02,468 --> 00:11:03,398 Will you do that for me?291 00:11:03,428 --> 00:11:06,308 And the Lord will come into your life and bless you in your family.292 00:11:06,998 --> 00:11:11,014 And he did And we knelt down in front of my in front of my tennis court or293 00:11:11,014 --> 00:11:14,674 was it in front of the house And we note down and I let him in As soon as294 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:18,514 Brian I said roll down I'm going to find you a Hispanic speaking church295 00:11:18,904 --> 00:11:25,084 I ran to the phone The only number I knew was seven One for 2000, which296 00:11:25,084 --> 00:11:26,824 was Trinity broadcasting network.297 00:11:27,784 --> 00:11:29,942 I stayed on the phone and it it was bam.298 00:11:30,002 --> 00:11:32,312 I hung up and I tried to walk away the holy spirit to say,299 00:11:32,342 --> 00:11:33,392 stay right there in a band.300 00:11:33,456 --> 00:11:33,649 Bam.301 00:11:34,219 --> 00:11:36,139 After a half an hour, I got you.302 00:11:36,139 --> 00:11:38,599 A lady came on the phone and she said, Trinity, broadcasting303 00:11:38,599 --> 00:11:39,739 network, praise the Lord.304 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:41,029 Who am I speaking with?305 00:11:41,629 --> 00:11:44,159 I said, I just led my gardener to the Lord.306 00:11:44,219 --> 00:11:45,629 No, she said, what can I help you with?307 00:11:45,629 --> 00:11:47,579 I said, I just led my garden into the Lord.308 00:11:47,969 --> 00:11:50,471 Can you Find me a Hispanic speaking church.309 00:11:50,801 --> 00:11:52,751 I said, I know there's one in Culver city.310 00:11:52,841 --> 00:11:53,421 And she said,311 00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:55,341 Like women do, women are going to be a mother.312 00:11:55,341 --> 00:11:57,651 I don't matter how old you are, how young you are.313 00:11:57,711 --> 00:11:58,191 They going to be?314 00:11:58,641 --> 00:11:59,091 Chris: Sure.315 00:11:59,811 --> 00:12:02,241 Dave: And she said, your voice sounds awfully familiar.316 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:03,541 Who am I speaking with?317 00:12:03,571 --> 00:12:04,654 I said Demond Wilson.318 00:12:04,654 --> 00:12:06,177 She said, oh my gosh.319 00:12:07,197 --> 00:12:08,277 You're not going to believe this.320 00:12:08,277 --> 00:12:09,147 I said, okay.321 00:12:09,327 --> 00:12:09,897 She said,322 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:16,357 Four years ago, we were, we came to California and we were turned323 00:12:16,357 --> 00:12:18,637 around up in Laurel canyon.324 00:12:19,207 --> 00:12:22,717 And we didn't know how to get out of the canyon and nobody would stop.325 00:12:22,747 --> 00:12:23,887 She said, did you drive.326 00:12:24,397 --> 00:12:25,297 A silver and black.327 00:12:25,687 --> 00:12:28,267 A rolls Royce would be Mon on the plates.328 00:12:29,107 --> 00:12:30,500 And I said you're not the police.329 00:12:30,890 --> 00:12:32,840 She said, no, I said.330 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:33,770 I did.331 00:12:33,770 --> 00:12:35,210 She said you stopped.332 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:37,250 And you asked us.333 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:38,810 If you could help us.334 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:43,021 And we told you and you didn't tell us, you took us down to sunset Boulevard.335 00:12:43,291 --> 00:12:45,691 I never forgot that she said, what are you doing now?336 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:46,921 I said, I'm waiting on the Lord.337 00:12:46,921 --> 00:12:49,201 He promised me some things and I'm waiting on him.338 00:12:49,261 --> 00:12:50,011 Chris: Wow.339 00:12:50,041 --> 00:12:51,031 Dave: And she said, hold on.340 00:12:51,031 --> 00:12:55,111 She went to the phone and got Paul and Jan crouch and they got on, I did one341 00:12:55,111 --> 00:12:57,631 show and my ministry just blew up world.342 00:12:58,711 --> 00:12:59,491 Chris: Amazing.343 00:12:59,789 --> 00:13:01,229 Dave: We serve an amazing God.344 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,519 Chris: Amen.345 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:03,479 Yes, we do.346 00:13:04,019 --> 00:13:04,889 A hundred percent.347 00:13:04,889 --> 00:13:05,309 We do348 00:13:05,549 --> 00:13:05,939 Zoom: tell me349 00:13:06,149 --> 00:13:06,599 Dave: that's.350 00:13:07,169 --> 00:13:07,439 Huh.351 00:13:07,619 --> 00:13:07,919 Chris: Tell me352 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,219 Zoom: about your ministry and leadership and the things that you've had to.353 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:14,246 grow through as you applied leadership in354 00:13:14,306 --> 00:13:14,829 Chris: ministry.355 00:13:14,829 --> 00:13:16,722 Dave: What happened was because of.356 00:13:17,532 --> 00:13:18,792 Being an entity.357 00:13:19,512 --> 00:13:21,582 I got invitations.358 00:13:21,642 --> 00:13:23,842 I'm telling you guys, you got to read this book.359 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,520 I got invitations from the top, from the leaders of all denominations.360 00:13:30,090 --> 00:13:31,170 From the church of God.361 00:13:31,710 --> 00:13:32,610 The big boys.362 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,890 From the Pentecostal assemblies, the big boys, the Baptist circle, the big boys.363 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:39,300 The paw.364 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,538 You don't base your theology on a lesser doctrine.365 00:13:42,078 --> 00:13:43,308 People said, oh, you're baptized.366 00:13:43,368 --> 00:13:44,358 The name of Jesus.367 00:13:45,078 --> 00:13:46,278 I said, yeah, he's one of them.368 00:13:47,278 --> 00:13:48,868 There's a couple others who went in there with him.369 00:13:48,988 --> 00:13:49,558 I don't mind doing.370 00:13:50,558 --> 00:13:51,668 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious.371 00:13:52,598 --> 00:13:53,288 Dave: I'm a funny guy.372 00:13:53,318 --> 00:13:54,458 He's paying me for doing this.373 00:13:54,563 --> 00:13:56,763 My calling was not as a pastor.374 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:59,294 You got the five full ministerial gifts you got.375 00:13:59,654 --> 00:14:00,014 You got.376 00:14:00,524 --> 00:14:03,434 Prophets evangelists, pastors, teachers,377 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,150 You have to abide in your calling.378 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:07,340 And my calling was itinerant.379 00:14:07,370 --> 00:14:11,420 I had to get out to the masses because the Lord didn't give me.380 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:16,130 Notoriety for me to sit down in front of 150 people every Sunday.381 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:17,980 Chris: I'd like to ask you something about Sanford.382 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:19,870 And Going back to your first answer.383 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:22,000 your father's name was Grady Wilson.384 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Did you385 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,100 get to name the character on Sanford and386 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:25,240 Dave: We did rent and I, yes.387 00:14:25,780 --> 00:14:27,340 His name was John Hill rice.388 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:30,880 Sanford his late brother was Fred Sanford.389 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:31,600 Chris: Fringe390 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:32,170 Dave: G Sanford.391 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:33,670 The G stands for gravy.392 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:36,040 If you got it, if you ain't got no gravy, that's not what.393 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:38,050 Chris: I never knew394 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:38,440 Dave: over here.395 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:40,450 Chris: stood for, because it seemed to change all the time.396 00:14:40,454 --> 00:14:41,674 Dave: It depends on what he needed.397 00:14:41,674 --> 00:14:41,914 Zoom: Yeah.398 00:14:42,034 --> 00:14:42,964 Dave: G stands for green.399 00:14:43,204 --> 00:14:46,654 You got any gravy then when they would have stands for.400 00:14:46,654 --> 00:14:48,034 Chris: Oh, that's hilarious.401 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:49,514 Dave: we did.402 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:50,564 We named a.403 00:14:51,674 --> 00:14:52,064 Absolutely.404 00:14:52,094 --> 00:14:53,514 And also a Lamont.405 00:14:53,779 --> 00:14:54,329 When Redd.406 00:14:54,379 --> 00:14:56,329 I ran away from home.407 00:14:56,401 --> 00:14:58,081 He joined a tramp ban.408 00:14:58,921 --> 00:15:00,601 And his best friend was named Lamont.409 00:15:01,351 --> 00:15:03,181 Chris: So I know from reading your book,410 00:15:03,181 --> 00:15:06,931 You two had such a close relationship even called you son for.411 00:15:07,741 --> 00:15:09,541 The rest of his life, from what I remember.412 00:15:10,031 --> 00:15:10,551 Dave: Yeah, Foxx.413 00:15:10,594 --> 00:15:11,704 He heard me at the end.414 00:15:11,764 --> 00:15:14,344 I never voiced it, but he hurt me at the end.415 00:15:15,064 --> 00:15:19,654 I was walking down the hall and Abernathy, who was the anchor at NBC in those days.416 00:15:19,737 --> 00:15:21,267 Came up to me and he said to mine, how.417 00:15:21,717 --> 00:15:22,557 How does it feel?418 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:22,917 I said.419 00:15:23,517 --> 00:15:23,817 Huh.420 00:15:24,597 --> 00:15:26,227 We're walking down the hall at NBC.421 00:15:26,227 --> 00:15:30,056 He said, No the end of an era, I said, what are you talking about?422 00:15:30,386 --> 00:15:32,366 He said you didn't read the trade papers today.423 00:15:32,636 --> 00:15:34,736 I said, I don't read the trade papers any day.424 00:15:34,766 --> 00:15:35,786 What did you talking about?425 00:15:36,056 --> 00:15:36,836 He said, read ahead.426 00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:37,736 It was on the front page.427 00:15:38,216 --> 00:15:40,466 Sanford and son, this is it for him.428 00:15:40,586 --> 00:15:41,546 This is last season.429 00:15:41,726 --> 00:15:44,606 And I was hurt because we always ran things by each other.430 00:15:44,936 --> 00:15:46,376 When we started out, it was.431 00:15:47,376 --> 00:15:47,886 student.432 00:15:48,426 --> 00:15:51,936 Then it became more of a father, son relationship.433 00:15:51,966 --> 00:15:56,396 And then later on, after the third season, It was younger brother, older brother.434 00:15:56,896 --> 00:15:57,136 I remember.435 00:15:57,196 --> 00:15:58,856 I went to Foxx one day and said Redd.436 00:15:58,935 --> 00:15:59,835 He said, yep.437 00:16:00,105 --> 00:16:00,495 Whatever.438 00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:02,585 The people would come to Redd this.439 00:16:02,585 --> 00:16:04,048 At Foxx, we want to do this and that.440 00:16:04,048 --> 00:16:05,695 Go ask my son, whatever you want to do.441 00:16:06,695 --> 00:16:07,205 Take a nap.442 00:16:08,015 --> 00:16:09,185 Chris: Oh, wow.443 00:16:09,335 --> 00:16:10,325 Dave: The roles are reversed.444 00:16:10,355 --> 00:16:11,825 That's the way it's supposed to be in life.445 00:16:11,872 --> 00:16:15,628 Men where they had a strong dad, and now he's old and feeble and446 00:16:15,958 --> 00:16:17,668 they leave them around in the mall.447 00:16:18,268 --> 00:16:21,118 And wiping his shin when he drops, whatever he's eating and.448 00:16:21,688 --> 00:16:23,158 That's the way it's supposed to be.449 00:16:24,328 --> 00:16:25,738 You're not supposed to bury your kids.450 00:16:25,738 --> 00:16:26,788 They're supposed to bury you.451 00:16:26,968 --> 00:16:27,448 Chris: That's true.452 00:16:27,538 --> 00:16:30,388 Dave: And your sons are supposed to take over, unfortunately.453 00:16:30,501 --> 00:16:32,481 I don't think that's going to happen in my household.454 00:16:33,471 --> 00:16:34,371 Chris: I'm sorry to hear that.455 00:16:34,371 --> 00:16:34,821 Dave: The sharp.456 00:16:35,821 --> 00:16:37,561 Chris: I think we're just about running out of time.457 00:16:37,591 --> 00:16:39,001 Wayne, do you have any questions for458 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:41,191 Dave: A lot of people in the world are running out of time.459 00:16:41,311 --> 00:16:42,211 Chris: I understand that.460 00:16:43,381 --> 00:16:44,251 Zoom: And we all are.461 00:16:44,611 --> 00:16:44,791 Dave: Man.462 00:16:44,791 --> 00:16:45,421 That's the truth.463 00:16:46,651 --> 00:16:48,781 I came out to gate like booboo, Shoop.464 00:16:49,231 --> 00:16:50,401 You said, oh my gosh.465 00:16:50,491 --> 00:16:51,721 He would lose them on us.466 00:16:52,891 --> 00:16:54,031 Chris: I've enjoyed every second467 00:16:54,031 --> 00:16:54,331 of it.468 00:16:54,641 --> 00:16:55,408 Dave: I don't have a question.469 00:16:55,498 --> 00:16:57,008 I mean it's just.470 00:16:57,028 --> 00:17:00,388 It's been a privilege to listen like you're right.471 00:17:00,418 --> 00:17:04,108 And your story, what you shared, what not I'm guessing in a million years.472 00:17:04,738 --> 00:17:06,984 But, Since I've been a follower.473 00:17:07,984 --> 00:17:09,634 I've come across a lot of people.474 00:17:10,114 --> 00:17:13,804 And they have a lot of different beliefs and not many.475 00:17:13,864 --> 00:17:15,274 I've been able to articulate them.476 00:17:15,934 --> 00:17:18,244 The way that you have saw, I really appreciate that.477 00:17:18,994 --> 00:17:19,594 Thank you brother.478 00:17:19,644 --> 00:17:22,678 It's a calling, I can't take any credit for anything that I've done.479 00:17:23,158 --> 00:17:26,938 He trained me up in the theater and he said, now take those gifts.480 00:17:27,538 --> 00:17:30,653 And take what I've placed in you, I prayed for.481 00:17:31,253 --> 00:17:32,243 And I still do.482 00:17:32,693 --> 00:17:35,303 Heavenly father in yeshua's, name, I pray for wisdom.483 00:17:35,423 --> 00:17:36,503 I pray for knowledge.484 00:17:36,593 --> 00:17:36,953 I pray for.485 00:17:37,073 --> 00:17:37,943 Increased faith.486 00:17:38,963 --> 00:17:39,953 I pray for healing.487 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:41,603 I pray for miracles.488 00:17:41,663 --> 00:17:41,753 I.489 00:17:41,783 --> 00:17:42,893 Pray for discernment.490 00:17:43,313 --> 00:17:46,523 Pray for the nine indwelling manifestation gifts.491 00:17:46,853 --> 00:17:48,353 To loom large in me.492 00:17:48,893 --> 00:17:51,708 And you have not because you asked not you received not because you493 00:17:51,708 --> 00:17:53,658 asked him if Lord give me a husband.494 00:17:53,958 --> 00:17:56,628 Lord, give me a way, Lord, give me a new house.495 00:17:56,838 --> 00:17:59,708 Lord, give me a car and people say the word says.496 00:18:00,188 --> 00:18:02,828 Whatsoever things you ask, they shall be given.497 00:18:02,978 --> 00:18:06,670 And I've been asking, I'm not getting anything because you're not asking for498 00:18:06,670 --> 00:18:09,040 the things that matter to the most high,499 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:09,700 his.500 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,450 Gifts.501 00:18:11,290 --> 00:18:13,870 Not this earthly mess.502 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:14,530 Chris: Yes.503 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:15,670 And that's what504 00:18:15,670 --> 00:18:18,400 Dave: For weeks, I've been praying for the anointing.505 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:20,590 Keep on.506 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:21,490 Chris: That's amazing.507 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:21,880 Dave: to go.508 00:18:22,030 --> 00:18:22,480 Love you.509 00:18:22,930 --> 00:18:24,370 Chris: Thank you so much.510 00:18:24,550 --> 00:18:24,700 Dave: you.511 00:18:25,210 --> 00:18:25,480 Yeah.512 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:26,500 Zoom: Have a blessed week.513 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:26,830 Chris: Yeah.514 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:27,460 Dave: You too.