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0 00:00:02,540 --> 00:00:02,740 -- Yeah.1 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:08,750 -- Mhm.2 00:00:17,540 --> 00:00:25,740 -- This is lead 12 12 a podcast on christ centered leadership based on romans 12 12,3 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:29,750 -- rejoice in hope, be patient tribulation, be constant in prayer.4 00:00:30,140 --> 00:00:32,750 -- Thanks for listening. Here's dave and chris5 00:00:33,940 --> 00:00:37,900 -- Hey Everybody Podcast five Chris did you think we'd make it6 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:38,520 -- here we are?7 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,560 -- No, I well I hoped we did, but no, I can say probably not. Go ahead8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,260 -- and thank you.9 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:51,550 -- Ladies and gentlemen, john or burke says this God is never a god of discouragement10 00:00:51,740 --> 00:00:55,850 -- when you have discouraging spirit or train of thought in your mind,11 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:58,040 -- you can be sure it is not from God.12 00:00:58,050 --> 00:01:03,530 -- He sometimes brings pain to his Children, conviction over sin, repentance,13 00:01:03,540 --> 00:01:07,870 -- over falling this and challenges that scare us or visions14 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,060 -- of his holiness that overwhelmed us but never brings discouragement.15 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,230 -- That is so good and so true. We'll16 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:17,030 -- be discouraged if you're listening to us.17 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:20,850 -- We want to encourage you, we want to be a Barnabas to your ministry. Absolutely.18 00:01:20,850 --> 00:01:24,550 -- So let us know we hope these skills that we're giving you is a19 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:28,940 -- there's a helpful thing for you that you can use in your everyday getting up life.20 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:31,590 -- So we're gonna cover some stuff today and I'm21 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:33,080 -- excited chris what are we talking22 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:33,720 -- about today?23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,920 -- We're talking about something called the situational approach.24 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:41,960 -- This is one of the more widely recognized approach to leadership and it probably has25 00:01:42,140 --> 00:01:45,680 -- more followers or more people using the situational approach than26 00:01:45,690 --> 00:01:48,460 -- any of the other types we've talked about so far.27 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:54,260 -- Okay, so we kind of talked about it before. All this is it pretty much makes sense.28 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:57,760 -- But just let it kind of play out, that's how I think that's our best advice.29 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,750 -- Listen to the whole thing as you kind of follow through with it,30 00:02:00,750 --> 00:02:01,550 -- is that it makes sense.31 00:02:01,550 --> 00:02:03,000 -- That makes sense. There we go.32 00:02:03,010 --> 00:02:04,160 -- All right, let's go.33 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:07,460 -- So the situational approach was developed by a couple of guys34 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:11,500 -- named Hershey and Blanchard back in 1969 and like we said,35 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:14,760 -- it's one of the more widely recognized approaches to leadership.36 00:02:15,140 --> 00:02:19,160 -- The situational approach has been refined and revised several times and it's37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,000 -- been used in organisation leadership trainings and meetings ever since 69.38 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:27,690 -- So just like the name implies, situational approach,39 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:32,750 -- emphasizes leadership in context, the situation determines what the leader does.40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,210 -- From this vantage point,41 00:02:34,210 --> 00:02:38,110 -- we can see digging an effective leader necessitates that an individual adapts his42 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:41,320 -- or her style to the demands of the different situations43 00:02:41,330 --> 00:02:42,130 -- sounds good.44 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:45,190 -- So the essence of situational approach requires leaders to45 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:48,140 -- match their styles with their followers competence and commitment.46 00:02:48,140 --> 00:02:51,460 -- Those are the two things we're looking at. If you can look at your team,47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,880 -- you have individuals who are competent and committed and then you have48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,620 -- a team level of competence and committed nous and the effective leaders49 00:02:58,620 --> 00:03:01,560 -- who use situational approach are the ones who can discern what the50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,310 -- follow is required and then adapt their styles to meet those needs.51 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:06,600 -- Is that is that okay, it52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,230 -- makes sense.53 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:11,250 -- And is you've kind of been talking me through this right before we started,54 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:16,040 -- Each situation has a different approach as far as whether you're the55 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,380 -- coach or you're the instructor or you're this or you're absolutely.56 00:03:19,390 --> 00:03:21,440 -- Um so hang on,57 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,250 -- there's a lot more to it and we'll keep trying to uh explain it as we go through it.58 00:03:26,260 --> 00:03:26,970 -- Exactly.59 00:03:26,980 --> 00:03:30,510 -- And like we mentioned earlier, the style has to,60 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,090 -- I guess we'll call it behaviors and traits.61 00:03:32,090 --> 00:03:32,660 -- They are62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 -- directive and supportive behaviors.63 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:38,160 -- The directive behaviors assist the group members64 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:40,520 -- to achieve goals by providing direction.65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,960 -- In other words, they teach them how to do what they need to do.66 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:46,880 -- They established the objectives, they tell them what needs to be done.67 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:49,150 -- They tell them how they're going to be evaluated.68 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,700 -- They established timelines,69 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:55,410 -- they define roles and they even demonstrate how to do what needs to be done.70 00:03:55,420 --> 00:03:59,360 -- That's all under directive supportive behaviors include71 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:03,360 -- acclimate the group to their surroundings, their co workers, the situation,72 00:04:03,370 --> 00:04:07,070 -- they ask the people for input, they resolve conflicts, they praise,73 00:04:07,070 --> 00:04:08,360 -- they share information,74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,280 -- they listen,75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,520 -- all those are examples of supportive behaviors and it's good to76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,760 -- know that the majority of supportive behaviors are work related.77 00:04:15,770 --> 00:04:21,149 -- Gotcha. So how do we do that? And I just our everyday stuff. What's that look like?78 00:04:21,740 --> 00:04:26,160 -- So that's good to know the first thing that a situational approach leader does is79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,230 -- evaluate 13 and the team will be evaluated into one of four different categories.80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,360 -- The first style, which we call S1 we usually call directive style.81 00:04:37,540 --> 00:04:41,070 -- the leader uses their approach to communicate in order to achieve the82 00:04:41,070 --> 00:04:44,230 -- goals and they don't spend a lot of time supporting the team,83 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:45,660 -- just teaching the team,84 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,790 -- the leader who uses this style instructs the followers on what they need to do,85 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:52,120 -- how to accomplish the goals and then they watched them do it,86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,810 -- they carefully supervise them.87 00:04:53,820 --> 00:04:58,920 -- So this is useful for a new team, we would call this team low incompetence,88 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,210 -- but high end commitment, they're excited to do the job,89 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:03,550 -- but they don't know how to do the job.90 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:05,860 -- So this is where the leader has to show them how to do the91 00:05:05,860 --> 00:05:08,820 -- job -- and there's times in our life where we have to be that leader,92 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:09,150 -- right?93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,060 -- Absolutely.94 00:05:10,070 --> 00:05:13,240 -- Where we have different people that are going through different issues.95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,630 -- We talked about the disciples96 00:05:14,630 --> 00:05:15,300 -- and the disciples97 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:16,480 -- are a great example98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,520 -- in the beginning point,99 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:22,850 -- Amen, thank you, pit that hard.100 00:05:22,860 --> 00:05:27,150 -- So it's important to understand when jesus first got these guys,101 00:05:27,150 --> 00:05:28,250 -- they were fishermen,102 00:05:28,540 --> 00:05:33,160 -- they were they were messy people, they were they were doing their best to love God103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,660 -- and they were trying to figure it all out, they met the messiah,104 00:05:36,660 --> 00:05:42,310 -- they met jesus and he started giving them the things they105 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:45,430 -- need to be able to do ministry for a lifetime,106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,230 -- but he had to start by taking it easy at the107 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:52,250 -- beginning and showing them different directives on how to do it.108 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:55,370 -- That's exactly right, and I can't think of a better example than that.109 00:05:55,370 --> 00:05:56,750 -- That's exactly right.110 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,610 -- So let's move on to the second style.111 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:03,820 -- The second style we commonly refer to is called S two in the situational approach,112 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:05,860 -- but we commonly refer to that as coaching113 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,260 -- and it's characterized by high directive, high support approach.114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,940 -- The leader uses this approach to communicate in order to accomplish115 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:18,260 -- goals while also meeting the socio economical leads of the followers.116 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:20,860 -- This requires that the leader engages with117 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:23,770 -- followers and encourages feedback from them.118 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:26,410 -- So not only are we showing them how to do it,119 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:29,340 -- we're giving them the emotional support that they need and120 00:06:29,340 --> 00:06:31,800 -- the supporting behavior to help them do their jobs.121 00:06:31,810 --> 00:06:35,260 -- So think of it this way when when jesus had his disciples,122 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:38,610 -- he actually showed him what it looked like by the sermon on the mount.123 00:06:38,610 --> 00:06:41,640 -- He actually showed him what it looked like when he was with the124 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,450 -- woman at the well or the woman caught in the act of adultery.125 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,910 -- They saw him living out Minnesota so they could126 00:06:47,910 --> 00:06:51,350 -- actually learn to do ministry in the future.127 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,320 -- Does that make sense, chris128 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,060 -- It does. That is so true.129 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,190 -- Think about the sermon of the mount and130 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 -- that was high directive and high supportive behavior,131 00:06:58,810 --> 00:06:59,930 -- but -- he was right there with him.132 00:06:59,930 --> 00:07:03,480 -- He was right there with him. You're exactly right. That's a wonderful example.133 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:06,480 -- But he also let them do some ministry during that season.134 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:07,350 -- And I think135 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:09,490 -- um as far as what we understand,136 00:07:09,490 --> 00:07:13,930 -- I do think there was stuff he watched them do and saw them have successes137 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:17,920 -- and help them in their own ministry as well as they started that at time,138 00:07:17,930 --> 00:07:19,860 -- I think I can't think of a better139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:30,370 -- tha t I s I love it, thank you very much.140 00:07:30,380 --> 00:07:30,860 -- Okay,141 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:34,030 -- the third style is S three and it's a142 00:07:34,030 --> 00:07:38,240 -- supportive approach that requires high support and low directive,143 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,360 -- we call this supporting, so you give a lot of emotional support,144 00:07:42,540 --> 00:07:47,520 -- but not a lot of direction, because at this point this team knows how to do their job,145 00:07:47,530 --> 00:07:51,550 -- they just need some support to do it right, according to the situational approach,146 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,540 -- sustaining a supportive style intel's listening,147 00:07:55,550 --> 00:07:59,360 -- praising its listening input and providing feedback,148 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:01,950 -- a leader who adopts the style delegates,149 00:08:01,950 --> 00:08:04,360 -- daily decisions to the followers but150 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,310 -- remains available to facilitate problem solving.151 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,490 -- This is when jesus started sending them out.152 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:10,200 -- If you think about it,153 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,880 -- he's let's go to different places and come back and hear what154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,350 -- was going on and ultimately even gets better when you think about155 00:08:17,540 --> 00:08:20,960 -- paul and timothy and how they went to different ministries and156 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:21,980 -- um you know,157 00:08:21,980 --> 00:08:26,760 -- they were actually starting to do the ministry that jesus started way back158 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,890 -- right before he even died, you know, in that first part of those three years,159 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:35,429 -- that's a pretty incredible thought when you think about that,160 00:08:35,429 --> 00:08:38,890 -- Jesus was right there with him, but he also sent us out,161 00:08:38,890 --> 00:08:45,860 -- he's sending all of us out to do more to be servants and to serve and so162 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,660 -- we'll talk about it,163 00:08:47,940 --> 00:08:50,840 -- thank you, thank you, Amen and Amen164 00:08:50,850 --> 00:08:53,280 -- jesus, that's a perfect example,165 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,580 -- the disciples had a good idea of what they needed to be doing,166 00:08:56,580 --> 00:09:00,330 -- they didn't need a lot of direction at that point, they just needed a lot of support,167 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:03,810 -- although I think at some point we always need a lot, I168 00:09:03,820 --> 00:09:04,710 -- know, I do,169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,780 -- yeah, I think,170 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:08,140 -- well just think about it this way,171 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:12,120 -- I always think of peter a lot when you think in these areas, Peter walked on water,172 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,130 -- but he also, he also almost drowned.173 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:15,590 -- He did, we all174 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:15,750 -- have,175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,000 -- because I was off the Lord and he176 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,680 -- did and we all have those177 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:22,770 -- moments in our ministry where we're doing good or not and you know,178 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:24,900 -- whether it's your workplace, whether it's your life,179 00:09:24,900 --> 00:09:28,090 -- whether it's you're just wanting to get up in the morning,180 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:32,850 -- trust God and the little things and he'll let you do big things if you just let him181 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:34,840 -- allow you that experience182 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,030 -- and amen to that, Amen to that, you know,183 00:09:37,030 --> 00:09:38,120 -- speaking of giving up all184 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,660 -- morning mike and back185 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:48,310 -- hello again, every time I hear that I think of a buddy of mine, that's a good one,186 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,760 -- so okay, the last style in the situational approach, the fourth style?187 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:59,460 -- S four is low supportive and low directive and we call this the delegating style,188 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,440 -- this leader provides less goal input unless social support in this approach,189 00:10:04,450 --> 00:10:07,630 -- thereby increasing the followers confidence in maintaining190 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,420 -- in the relation to the goal,191 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:12,850 -- the delegated leader minimizes his or her involvement in planning.192 00:10:12,860 --> 00:10:14,660 -- We leave these to the team.193 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,130 -- This leader knows the team, knows what to do,194 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:20,890 -- they know how to do it and they don't need a lot from him except the delegation.195 00:10:20,890 --> 00:10:23,260 -- They just need the authority and that's what he gives them.196 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:23,960 -- Yeah,197 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,950 -- I think one of the things that's important when I see all these different things,198 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,390 -- I think sometimes the church messes this and let me explain.199 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,070 -- I think sometimes you'll have a church and they'll get someone new200 00:10:35,070 --> 00:10:39,550 -- and and they just get baptized and you got them teaching revelations,201 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,940 -- that's not the direction and that's not this kind202 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,450 -- of cycle that needs to happen for their Christianity.203 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:50,220 -- You know, the next thing they need to do is not necessarily revelation,204 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:51,950 -- but maybe the gospels,205 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,630 -- let's start there as a good place and206 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:57,530 -- then start understanding some of the proverbs and207 00:10:57,530 --> 00:11:03,890 -- the psalms and just taking it through piece by piece as you grow in the bible,208 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:07,750 -- you grow in your leadership and I believe it was all hard209 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:10,230 -- and I think we need to teach that in the church.210 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:16,390 -- I think, um, sometimes we as churches and we've all been there, we just say, okay,211 00:11:16,390 --> 00:11:16,790 -- you're here.212 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:19,650 -- Now look,213 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,700 -- you're you're on.214 00:11:21,710 --> 00:11:25,130 -- So instead of saying, how can we help you minister, how can we,215 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:27,340 -- how can we love you and get you to216 00:11:27,340 --> 00:11:30,150 -- a place where you're actually doing ministry with us.217 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,100 -- So you're saying not only does a situational approach218 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:35,850 -- apply very well to the disciples of Jesus,219 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:40,480 -- but also to people when they first become Christians or join the church, 100%,220 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,460 -- maybe they start with with high commitment, they're so excited.221 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:46,090 -- but they have little confidence. They don't know what they need to do.222 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:48,390 -- I got one for you, Is this he saved?223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:56,480 -- Well, I am sorry, that's that's how we are the right we're third up.224 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,560 -- But yes, we forget to sometimes slow down a little bit. I know I was that way too and I225 00:12:02,740 --> 00:12:04,940 -- first accepted christ, it was, you know,226 00:12:04,940 --> 00:12:08,170 -- I just wanted to go and sometimes I messed that fire227 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:10,760 -- and sometimes I need to go back to that day,228 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,100 -- I accepted jesus and remind myself of the hope that I have so I can get229 00:12:15,100 --> 00:12:18,120 -- that fire back and hopefully I've learned something230 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,490 -- through studying and getting closer to God's word,231 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:23,750 -- that it starts more232 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:26,460 -- all come full circle. So I got the fire,233 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,790 -- I've got the education, I've got the insight.234 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:32,530 -- Now I've got the application, let's let's make this thing work.235 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:37,840 -- So talk me through this, we have a person who becomes a new Christian. There?236 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,660 -- S1, they're so excited,237 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:42,630 -- they've given their life to the lord that they just don't know what to238 00:12:42,630 --> 00:12:43,420 -- do,239 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:45,750 -- They're -- fired, What direction do we give them?240 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,470 -- Well, I think it starts with you need to find a church home if you don't have one yet.241 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,170 -- I think not only do you need to find a church home, you need to find a church family,242 00:12:55,180 --> 00:13:00,010 -- a family that they don't always look like you or act like.243 00:13:00,020 --> 00:13:04,600 -- But you can learn from each other. Thank you very much.244 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,980 -- And it's important that we get this because I245 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:10,350 -- think sometimes we forget the most important thing.246 00:13:10,350 --> 00:13:13,860 -- I do believe. If you read hebrews, I think it's in 1025.247 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,760 -- Don't forsake the fellowship of each other. We name248 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,450 -- each other. Yes, we do.249 00:13:18,460 --> 00:13:20,330 -- That's the only way the church succeeds.250 00:13:20,330 --> 00:13:25,360 -- That's the only way we succeed as christians as christ centered followers.251 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:28,080 -- We have to have the church. Sorry, I got a little preaching.252 00:13:28,130 --> 00:13:29,360 -- Amen to that.253 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,220 -- So, okay, let's go a little bit down the road.254 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:34,210 -- They've been a christian for a little while. There's still a new christian,255 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:36,820 -- let's say their excitement starting to wane a little bit.256 00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:40,430 -- There are new christian and now we need to move into as to the coaching phase.257 00:13:40,430 --> 00:13:41,300 -- What do we do then?258 00:13:41,310 --> 00:13:45,120 -- I think that's where, you know, in some churches, we have small groups,259 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,080 -- which is a good thing.260 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,990 -- Perfect. And you know, I think that works.261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,600 -- There's always a new study that says, that's not working as good here's the problem.262 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,260 -- Small groups don't work when you're not studying the bible.263 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,790 -- So let me just start first with if you have a264 00:13:59,790 --> 00:14:03,260 -- small group and it's a social thing that's cool fellowships,265 00:14:03,260 --> 00:14:07,220 -- important, koinonia is really essential to your walk.266 00:14:07,230 --> 00:14:09,450 -- But you also need bible studies,267 00:14:09,460 --> 00:14:13,260 -- you need to get into the word and you need to study the word.268 00:14:13,540 --> 00:14:17,860 -- Don't let anyone tell you anything different if you're just going to a church,269 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,140 -- but you're not getting the word then we as the270 00:14:21,140 --> 00:14:24,110 -- church has messed up and true as a leader,271 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:25,990 -- I've done this right and I've done this wrong272 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:28,590 -- and I'm learning every day to do this better.273 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,920 -- I think this is key as we kind of coach them through.274 00:14:32,930 --> 00:14:36,850 -- That's beautiful, that's beautiful. They're no longer a new christian,275 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,270 -- They understand what they're supposed to do.276 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,900 -- Maybe they're ready for some task and maybe they're ready to step out277 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:45,740 -- a little bit on their own and perform some of these things.278 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:50,550 -- So they move into S3, they don't need a lot of direction, but they need high support.279 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,150 -- How do you solve that?280 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,350 -- Yeah, I think we we encourage I mean we absolutely.281 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,880 -- We know I think you used the word praise on one of these. Yeah,282 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:59,440 -- that one283 00:14:59,450 --> 00:15:01,340 -- was gonna have praises284 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:01,750 -- As three.285 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:07,360 -- I think we as Christian leaders praised those who were who are following and who are286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,720 -- trying to live better for jesus and we try to help them in their walk,287 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,970 -- we try to help them in their leadership, we try to help them.288 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:18,160 -- So in church work, let's think this through,289 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:22,260 -- if you have somebody who's kind of at that point, maybe they need to start290 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:28,120 -- praying with the group, well, people get uncomfortable and if I, you know,291 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:30,510 -- I know there's somebody out there, I just can't pray out loud,292 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,510 -- Well don't limit your jesus,293 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,950 -- let me just say that, and I understand it's hard to do that, I get it,294 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,880 -- and I would never put anyone in the spot, and I always try to check first if it's okay,295 00:15:43,890 --> 00:15:46,830 -- but I think that's just the kind of the next step to kind of follow,296 00:15:46,830 --> 00:15:51,210 -- You start praying in public, you start talking about your walk in public,297 00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:54,910 -- you start sharing it with people that you go to work with,298 00:15:54,910 --> 00:16:01,070 -- you start living it out loud, it's that process where you live your faith out loud.299 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,950 -- Yes, -- it does, and that's that fits so well, that's that's wonderful.300 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,160 -- So let's take this to the last step.301 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:11,530 -- The new christians have stayed with the church, they've got a lot of direction,302 00:16:11,530 --> 00:16:12,920 -- they've moved from S one to S.303 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,510 -- Two, and they just finished S.304 00:16:14,510 --> 00:16:15,550 -- Three, the supporting,305 00:16:15,550 --> 00:16:19,370 -- so now they don't need direction and they don't really need support,306 00:16:19,370 --> 00:16:23,530 -- their highly competent and they have a high commitment, what's in it for them now,307 00:16:23,540 --> 00:16:24,830 -- where do they go well?308 00:16:24,830 --> 00:16:27,760 -- And I think, you know, it depends on the church, maybe309 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:30,140 -- um some of them need to start any charge,310 00:16:30,140 --> 00:16:34,840 -- maybe some of them need to go to the mission field.311 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:40,420 -- I know you love to hear that sometimes, but I think we need to teach that I really do.312 00:16:40,430 --> 00:16:44,250 -- I think we need to say, you know, what is God calling me to do?313 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:46,960 -- Um that helps me to remind myself314 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,070 -- this is not my home.315 00:16:49,140 --> 00:16:54,750 -- I think the one the one thing we don't teach enough in church,316 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,790 -- the goal isn't this earth, the goal isn't this world.317 00:16:57,790 --> 00:17:01,090 -- If you read the book of James, if you read all through the scripture,318 00:17:01,100 --> 00:17:04,390 -- it reminds us over and over and over.319 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:09,410 -- The goal is heaven, for those of you listen, this one of this things,320 00:17:09,410 --> 00:17:12,240 -- we want to let you know about this podcast, we're not backing down,321 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,640 -- we're not just giving you principles, we're giving you jesus with these322 00:17:15,780 --> 00:17:18,460 -- men, -- we believe in him.323 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:20,859 -- Yes, you do.324 00:17:21,020 --> 00:17:27,359 -- You find a nice paraphrasing Amen.325 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:32,700 -- So that really worked well. But can you also see how the different styles don't work?326 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:34,170 -- Let's say that you have a team327 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:37,320 -- that doesn't need direction and they don't need support.328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,730 -- There are fully S 14,329 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:40,460 -- they're capable of coming in the morning and330 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:42,670 -- knocking a home run out and you decide you're331 00:17:42,670 --> 00:17:46,230 -- going to come in as an S one teacher and teach them how to do their job.332 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:48,780 -- They may know how to do that job better than you do.333 00:17:48,790 --> 00:17:51,850 -- They don't need that you're going to demoralize the team334 00:17:51,860 --> 00:17:53,230 -- and we, you know,335 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:56,760 -- you I've seen that in church, you've seen that in church too.336 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,360 -- Sometimes you'll have people that it's weird because you never know337 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,360 -- when someone comes into a new church what their background is.338 00:18:03,370 --> 00:18:07,640 -- You know, I think you've got to start in the, in in that little corner over there,339 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,310 -- that first, that first part, even if your way further in your Christianity,340 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,990 -- then you can start going faster through the process with that church,341 00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:19,060 -- because each church needs to work through that with you.342 00:18:19,060 --> 00:18:22,840 -- And then I think that's a really good point chris that we need to343 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,720 -- understand what churches just because you have been in church a long time,344 00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,570 -- that doesn't mean you've been at that church for a long time,345 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:34,590 -- patient and work with the church and once you find the right place, I promise you,346 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:35,760 -- it's gonna be an easy fish.347 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,860 -- Yes, -- that it makes wonderful sense. Perfect.348 00:18:39,340 --> 00:18:43,360 -- Let me say, do you think the church at times may be guilty of the opposite of that?349 00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:46,770 -- We take a brand new christian, that needs a lot of direction350 00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:52,060 -- and we treat them as an S three or S four leader, We don't give them a lot of direction,351 00:18:52,060 --> 00:18:53,180 -- We don't give them support.352 00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:53,880 -- You're a christian.353 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,360 -- Now, congratulations, I'll see you later,354 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:57,710 -- You're 22 years old,355 00:18:57,710 --> 00:18:59,330 -- welcome to the youth ministry.356 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:02,420 -- Exactly, that never happens does357 00:19:02,430 --> 00:19:03,680 -- problem, that never358 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,070 -- happened and well,359 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:07,270 -- and that is an issue, right?360 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,260 -- And yes,361 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,020 -- you sing really pretty welcome, you're the worship362 00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:12,650 -- Leader,363 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:14,640 -- that's not five minutes.364 00:19:14,650 --> 00:19:19,450 -- My prayers in our goal and we, we, you know,365 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:25,400 -- we will be the first to tell you as our church there, sometimes we we get it wrong,366 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,460 -- we have to make sure367 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:30,710 -- anyone that's up in front of our church, they are above reproach,368 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,540 -- and we all put jesus first,369 00:19:33,550 --> 00:19:34,640 that's370 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,040 -- the endgame.371 00:19:36,050 --> 00:19:39,580 -- And I don't want anyone to not forget that,372 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:42,270 -- because I think that's the most important thing,373 00:19:42,270 --> 00:19:44,840 -- no matter what you're experiencing with your church,374 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:48,730 -- if you're trying to love jesus and they're trying to love jesus, jesus,375 00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:51,360 -- and me and jesus knew jesus will get along.376 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:53,360 -- Yes, yes, that's great.377 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,280 -- So here's a few notes that I have about this.378 00:19:56,290 --> 00:20:00,150 -- Uh well, let's see how the situational approach work.379 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:02,200 -- If you're going to implement this, how would it work?380 00:20:02,210 --> 00:20:07,470 -- It's important to note that the followers will progress and regress continually.381 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,670 -- There may be a D for today or this month or this year.382 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,160 -- They may go back to a D three or D two at times, and you need to adjust your leadership383 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,320 -- to be an effective leader.384 00:20:18,330 --> 00:20:22,830 -- You first ascertain where the followers are on the development continuum,385 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,000 -- then you adapt your leadership style to correspond to those development levels.386 00:20:27,010 --> 00:20:32,280 -- The leaders first task in any situation is to ascertain the situations nature,387 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,670 -- then follow the following issues must be addressed.388 00:20:35,340 --> 00:20:38,620 -- What objectives are the followers expected to accomplish?389 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:41,860 -- How complicated is the objective are the followers390 00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:43,950 -- skilled enough to carry out the mission?391 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:48,250 -- Do they intend to complete the job once they begin the answers to these questions392 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:50,540 -- will assist the leaders in accurately identifying393 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:53,360 -- the developmental stage where the followers are operating394 00:20:53,540 --> 00:20:56,580 -- After determining the appropriate team level, the team leaders.395 00:20:56,580 --> 00:21:00,040 -- Second task is to adapt his or her style to the prescribed level,396 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:01,760 -- prescribed level is always a direct397 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,140 -- correlation between the followers development level.398 00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:06,260 -- Like we said D one through D. Four399 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:09,950 -- and the leadership style has to be S one through S. Four to match400 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:12,910 -- and that is situational approach. There401 00:21:12,910 --> 00:21:13,560 -- it is.402 00:21:13,570 --> 00:21:19,330 -- We always try to close with some scripture thought at the end. So mark 10 42 through 45403 00:21:19,460 --> 00:21:21,950 -- jesus called them to him and said to them,404 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 -- you know that those who are considered rulers of the gentiles405 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,850 -- lorded over them and their great ones exercise authority over them.406 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,170 -- But it shall not be so among you.407 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,340 -- But whoever would be great among you must be your servant and408 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:40,200 -- whoever would be first among you must be a slave of all.409 00:21:40,210 --> 00:21:43,610 -- For even the son of man came not to be served,410 00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:50,770 -- but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many, Jesus was the greatest leader411 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,770 -- ever. Amen. They understood412 00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:57,860 -- his goal was to serve what's to love413 00:21:58,340 --> 00:22:00,330 -- was to be the savior.414 00:22:00,340 --> 00:22:05,740 -- Our goal is in Philippians to have an attitude saying that of christ, jesus,415 00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:07,440 -- how's your attitude?416 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:10,990 -- Are you serving each other? Are you taking care of one another?417 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,730 -- Our prayers that you are?418 00:22:12,740 --> 00:22:14,950 -- That's a great leader, We love you,419 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:18,030 -- we thank you for letting us have your ear for a few minutes.420 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360 -- We hope you have a blessed week421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,350 -- and we pray that you're out there just knowing how to be the church. God bless.422 00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:31,370 -- This is an lbs production, which stands for pounds.423 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:32,420 -- I don't know if you knew that or not,424 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:36,170 -- but it also stands for laughing because we're saved.425 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:37,610 -- But we kind of like the pounds,426 00:22:37,610 --> 00:22:42,770 -- so um chris will lift them and I will gain them and we will have a great time.427 00:22:42,770 --> 00:22:43,550 -- Thanks for listening.428 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:44,770 -- Mhm.