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0 00:00:02,540 --> 00:00:02,740 Yeah.1 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:08,750 Mhm.2 00:00:17,540 --> 00:00:22,250 This is lead 12 12 a podcast on christ centered3 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:26,550 leadership based on romans 12 12 rejoice in hope,4 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:29,750 be patient tribulation, be constant in prayer.5 00:00:30,140 --> 00:00:31,240 Thanks for listening.6 00:00:31,250 --> 00:00:34,860 Here's Dave and chris on the whole God's love for us is7 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,750 much safer subject to think about than our love for him.8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,760 C. S. Lewis9 00:00:40,140 --> 00:00:45,430 beautiful. Hey everybody, how are you? 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I was gonna say that.22 00:01:29,310 --> 00:01:34,100 So there you go, make sure you check our website out and we've got a good topic today.23 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:35,870 -- Chris what are we -- talking about?24 00:01:35,870 --> 00:01:39,450 We're talking about one of the big east transformational leadership.25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,840 This is simply put the most popular approach to26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,860 leadership and has been since the early 1980s.27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,750 So we're in for a big one today.28 00:01:49,140 --> 00:01:56,360 -- Amen and Amen everybody excited. I know I am. I am too, there -- we go, there it is29 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:57,870 All right.30 00:01:57,870 --> 00:02:00,560 The idea for transformational leadership,31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,810 Dave came from James Downton in 1973 and the focus of32 00:02:05,810 --> 00:02:08,789 transformational leadership is giving attention to33 00:02:08,789 --> 00:02:10,960 the charismatic elements of leadership.34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,860 -- This is a very charismatic form, -- gotcha,35 00:02:14,340 --> 00:02:15,120 charismatic,36 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,530 let's explain kind of what that looks like that's37 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:21,050 attracting people that's um something that you want,38 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:26,400 you love it so much, you see it, it's just, it's on fire and you want to catch that fire.39 00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:27,540 Absolutely right.40 00:02:27,550 --> 00:02:30,450 So what is transformational leadership,41 00:02:30,540 --> 00:02:33,260 transformational leadership is a leadership method by42 00:02:33,260 --> 00:02:36,260 which the individuals are changed and transformed.43 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,140 So it transforms the people involved in this.44 00:02:39,140 --> 00:02:42,990 The followers, transformational leadership involves emotions,45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,800 values ethics and standards as well as long term objectives.46 00:02:47,850 --> 00:02:52,090 And transformational leadership involves determining followers motivations,47 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,960 meeting their needs and treating them as human beings.48 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:56,130 And lastly,49 00:02:56,130 --> 00:02:58,110 transformational leadership is a unique50 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:00,410 style of influence that motivates followers51 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:04,010 to go above and beyond what is typically expected of them.52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,170 It's a process that frequently has the53 00:03:06,170 --> 00:03:08,780 presence of charismatic and visionary leadership.54 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:12,940 Have you ever been motivated to go above and beyond what was expected of you?55 00:03:12,950 --> 00:03:16,400 -- Absoluteing 100 -- you were transformed and that would56 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,300 make you strive to be a better person,57 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:18,670 wouldn't?58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,100 -- It -- does Absolutely.59 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:23,250 Who are some of the transformational leaders from history60 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,760 at the top of everyone's list is nelson Mandela,61 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:27,830 You know,62 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:30,750 Dave after years of leading the struggle for democracy in South63 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:34,870 Africa and even 27 years in I guess in jail,64 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,690 he was released when the country reached65 00:03:36,690 --> 00:03:39,150 a tipping point in its fight against oppression66 00:03:39,540 --> 00:03:40,840 despite those ordeals,67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,010 nelson Mandela emerged from prison to serve as the country's next president,68 00:03:45,020 --> 00:03:47,940 promoting forgiveness and unity and by doing so69 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:51,050 he transformed South Africa into a democratic nation,70 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:53,550 so he transformed an entire nation.71 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:59,760 You know, the thing that I think I know that that affected me most by just watching him72 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,650 was you would think this guy would come out and73 00:04:02,650 --> 00:04:06,270 be bitter and be mad and be ticked off but74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,020 his smile chris um and I think sometimes a smile75 00:04:10,020 --> 00:04:13,540 can cover over a lot of things and he just,76 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:17,279 he knew to find his joy and something other than77 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,610 this world and I believe it's God I always do,78 00:04:19,610 --> 00:04:25,760 that's the only thing I can do and so he found his smile in the midst of79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,990 really quite the tribulation and that's pretty impressive to me.80 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:34,660 -- How about Ukraine -- it really is, you know, he's noted for a complete lack of ego too.81 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:35,960 He was,82 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:38,630 he was truly a transformational leader and here's83 00:04:38,630 --> 00:04:40,840 another one for you sir Winston Churchill,84 00:04:40,850 --> 00:04:42,920 he was really good at focusing on the85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,270 bigger picture and he used his leadership to teach86 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:48,630 courage to the british people if you know what they were going through at the time,87 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:50,960 they needed courage and he was the right person for that,88 00:04:51,140 --> 00:04:54,830 it was 100% and you know each one that you are talking about,89 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:59,270 it really is a surrender of their ego and you know I always heard the term,90 00:04:59,270 --> 00:05:02,490 I think rick warren started, it was with the ego.91 00:05:02,490 --> 00:05:08,560 It's edging. Got out. Oh that's good. Yeah, so I got out Yeah, so as a leader,92 00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:11,320 my biggest issue to humble up,93 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:13,340 I got to make sure that I'm not edging God out94 00:05:13,340 --> 00:05:16,750 and God's getting all the glory and that way in humility,95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,650 it's his, not mine.96 00:05:19,050 --> 00:05:24,660 Thank you. Thank you ladies and gentlemen, thank you97 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:29,360 -- deserves a round of applause, I appreciate -- That agent God that is wonderful.98 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,470 -- It's one -- of my favorite things to say because I catch myself, we all have egos.99 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,740 Sometimes we like to to get our ego stroke, Let's just be honest about it.100 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:40,170 That's that's the truth.101 00:05:40,180 --> 00:05:44,010 We need to understand though, it's about God getting the glory,102 00:05:44,010 --> 00:05:46,920 not us getting anything because at the end of the day,103 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,300 what we're going to get is heaven and that104 00:05:49,690 --> 00:05:54,160 -- you uh I love, so the goal is heaven. -- Amen.105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,550 -- Oh here we go, I can hear it starting, come -- on now, go crazy.106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,150 Agent brother Dave.107 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Yeah,108 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:03,040 yeah.109 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:04,280 Alright,110 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:08,830 so another transformational leader is President Abraham Lincoln111 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,260 Lincoln believed that in the most challenging times.112 00:06:11,260 --> 00:06:13,530 The leader's attitude determines the spirit of the113 00:06:13,530 --> 00:06:16,430 country and Lincoln was frequent to say praise114 00:06:16,430 --> 00:06:18,780 is the most effective and most powerful thing115 00:06:18,780 --> 00:06:21,330 -- to do -- and the thing about Lincoln again,116 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:26,300 he lost more than he once he did, he lost so many times,117 00:06:26,310 --> 00:06:29,450 but he never gave uh that's exactly,118 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:33,320 I think that's a transformational leader is someone that doesn't give up,119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,650 they just, they know they drive up well,120 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:38,660 you know the price man and you got to just keep towards the price,121 00:06:38,670 --> 00:06:42,330 they believe in it so much and they're able to convince you to believe in it too.122 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:44,660 -- And -- as christians, if our prize is heaven,123 00:06:44,940 --> 00:06:45,790 that's the goal.124 00:06:45,790 --> 00:06:49,860 And as leaders were wanting to love people back to jesus, so we lead them125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,290 the way jesus leads us.126 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:52,520 Absolutely, you know,127 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,910 I've got two more and I think that's a128 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:56,960 perfect lead in a transformational leader believes in the goal129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,670 so much that they're willing to sacrifice everything and they130 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,090 can convince the followers to believe in it too.131 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:05,190 And who was top of that, that was dr martin Luther king,132 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,150 He was one of the most transformation famous transformational leaders in history.133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,730 He was a great american human rights activist and he134 00:07:11,730 --> 00:07:14,960 will forever be remembered by the world for his contributions.135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,820 Absolutely,136 00:07:16,010 --> 00:07:16,960 absolutely.137 00:07:17,340 --> 00:07:17,960 Um138 00:07:18,340 --> 00:07:22,270 go back and read some of his speeches, he does always include God,139 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:24,350 I know there'll be someone in this,140 00:07:24,350 --> 00:07:26,740 that here's this and it's very cynical towards that.141 00:07:26,740 --> 00:07:27,940 But let me just say this,142 00:07:27,950 --> 00:07:32,380 -- we don't have people like that listening does do -- Well let's hope, you know what,143 00:07:32,380 --> 00:07:34,980 that's a good point, that's a good point.144 00:07:34,990 --> 00:07:39,200 But if you are, let me just tell you in love, you know,145 00:07:39,210 --> 00:07:42,660 throw back the judgment a little bit and just know that God146 00:07:42,660 --> 00:07:46,190 can use anybody and everybody because he uses you very good.147 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,960 -- So there you -- go. I've got one more. A very148 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:54,090 -- famous transformational leader was Princess Diana -- amazing.149 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:57,320 -- She -- was highly praised for her charity work150 00:07:57,330 --> 00:08:00,040 and initially she was noted for being shy,151 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,900 but it didn't take long very soon.152 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:06,560 Her charisma and her charms and her friendliness gained popularity153 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,360 and you know,154 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,280 she was a sponsor of nearly 100 charities and she used her155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,070 position of power to support many humanitarian organizations around the world.156 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,050 She really cared for Children.157 00:08:16,050 --> 00:08:19,650 She had a heart for Children, like nobody's business. And158 00:08:19,940 --> 00:08:25,300 -- I I commend her for that 100%. Absolutely. There you -- go.159 00:08:25,310 --> 00:08:28,560 So I'm gonna throw some out that I think a transformational leaders160 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,920 from the bible dave you tell me what you think about these.161 00:08:30,940 --> 00:08:35,350 The first one is Abraham, the father of all nations and he was a monotheistic,162 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:38,260 a pagan society, he had courage and confidence,163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,559 he had high morals and ethics and a strong sense of justice,164 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,830 100% and he listened to God,165 00:08:43,830 --> 00:08:46,910 even when God made him think that he was gonna have to166 00:08:46,910 --> 00:08:52,200 sacrifice his only son and his son with Sarah uh guess what?167 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,800 God always shows up.168 00:08:53,810 --> 00:08:57,590 He knew that God would show up and he trusted in169 00:08:57,590 --> 00:09:00,050 that and he knew that he would put him on the altar170 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,650 and he still knew that God would show up. That's faith.171 00:09:02,650 --> 00:09:05,060 I want to have that kind of faith and I think leaders172 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,190 that truly are doing the right thing has a faith for God that knows that173 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:12,440 whatever is going to happen to me today me and I can handle it and he174 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:13,390 did that.175 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,980 Come on now, another thing,176 00:09:15,980 --> 00:09:19,360 I don't think Abraham had a huge ego and the reason I say that as177 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,130 you remember the story and he's sitting at his tent and he saw three strangers178 00:09:23,140 --> 00:09:26,530 and he ran out to them and he invited them into his home and he179 00:09:26,530 --> 00:09:29,450 washed their feet and he fed them and he didn't know who they were.180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,660 I've always thought that too and I think you're 100% on that.181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,420 So another one I think this one goes without saying but let's throw it out there,182 00:09:37,420 --> 00:09:38,240 jesus,183 00:09:38,250 --> 00:09:40,770 I think jesus was definitely a transformational184 00:09:40,770 --> 00:09:43,890 leader and transformational leaders encourage you.185 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:45,530 And the first thing that came to my mind186 00:09:45,530 --> 00:09:48,860 was Matthew 28 20 teaching them to observe all that187 00:09:48,860 --> 00:09:53,450 I have commanded you and behold I am with you always even to the end of the world,188 00:09:53,540 --> 00:09:57,220 Amen and Amen and look at the way that he treated189 00:09:57,230 --> 00:10:00,260 those who were probably not like minded with him at all.190 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:02,400 But he loved them, he loved them,191 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,010 I love the woman at the well and I love the fact one192 00:10:06,010 --> 00:10:08,810 of the key things that happened with the one of the well is she193 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:11,660 left her water jar with jesus and that was what brought her there because194 00:10:11,660 --> 00:10:15,420 she was in the sin relationship and and she left it with jesus.195 00:10:15,420 --> 00:10:18,860 What if leaders actually started leaving our stuff are196 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,230 since our stupidity and all of our things with jesus?197 00:10:23,230 --> 00:10:25,370 Wouldn't that be amazing what we've become leaders of198 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:27,010 God and that's what he wants us to be.199 00:10:27,010 --> 00:10:29,330 Absolutely. That would be true.200 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:34,130 And the last one I've got from the bible and there's so many in there,201 00:10:34,130 --> 00:10:35,340 but these are just some things that I came to,202 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:38,150 some that I came up with quickly is the apostle paul.203 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 You know he's creative change204 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,950 and a face to face level with his letter to Philemon,205 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,050 -- how do we say that again? It's fine. -- Yeah, you're fine. Fine.206 00:10:49,050 --> 00:10:52,750 Lemon is all how here's how you say a bible name that you don't know,207 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:53,570 you're ready to leave.208 00:10:53,580 --> 00:11:00,120 Just say it so fast. No one even knows what her209 00:11:00,220 --> 00:11:04,610 when I get some of the all the different you know names that you210 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:09,340 have to go through sometimes and it's hard to to to pronounce him,211 00:11:09,340 --> 00:11:10,550 Just say it fast.212 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:12,690 There you go, God knows you don't know them.213 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:14,980 -- So that's okay -- if you if you look at214 00:11:14,990 --> 00:11:17,950 not only how the apostle paul transformed himself,215 00:11:17,950 --> 00:11:21,250 how he was transformed, but he transformed so many relationships216 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,710 when he works on the collection of the poor saints in Jerusalem is217 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:28,320 a good example or his encounters with greek philosophy in roman law,218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,570 -- he shows how to transform the discussion of public theology for everyone, -- right?219 00:11:32,580 --> 00:11:34,490 And and paul was passionate man.220 00:11:34,490 --> 00:11:35,190 Yes, he was,221 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,360 he knew what was right and he knew how to how222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 to take that to people and give that to people.223 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,850 And that's a pretty amazing thing, I think.224 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,740 Very good. So what are the characteristics of transformational leadership?225 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:49,940 And if you think back to the examples we've given226 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:52,750 those people should have most if not all of these,227 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:56,910 the transformational leadership is attentive to the needs and motives of the228 00:11:56,910 --> 00:12:01,150 followers and tries to help the followers reach their fullest potential.229 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,420 The transformational leader is very charismatic.230 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:10,060 People are naturally drawn to them and they also have strong moral values.231 00:12:10,060 --> 00:12:13,960 Think of the list that we had from Winston Churchill to dr martin Luther King.232 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:18,620 They all had strong moral values. Amen, Amen.233 00:12:18,630 --> 00:12:20,390 They try to identify,234 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,010 try to link the identity of the followers235 00:12:23,020 --> 00:12:25,980 to the collective identity of the organization.236 00:12:26,020 --> 00:12:30,280 In other words, you're a part of this, we need you. We can't do without you.237 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,060 You're a big part of what we do. 100%238 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,770 And they express high expectations for their followers239 00:12:37,210 --> 00:12:41,360 and transformational leadership are known for something called the four eyes.240 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,850 The first i is the idealized influence,241 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:48,560 then they act as role models with high standards of morals and ethics242 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,570 and the second is inspiring.243 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:53,240 They have high expectations value and a high commitment244 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,360 and they'll inspire you to have those two.245 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,510 The 3rd eye of the four eyes is intellectual stimulation.246 00:12:59,810 --> 00:13:02,760 That's where they challenge the followers to be creative and innovative.247 00:13:03,340 --> 00:13:07,310 And lastly of the four eyes is idealized consideration.248 00:13:07,540 --> 00:13:09,850 They listen carefully to the followers and they act249 00:13:09,850 --> 00:13:12,380 as a coach and a mentor to assist followers.250 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:14,460 They help the followers with very personal251 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:17,100 challenges and they're always very optimistic.252 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:18,060 So,253 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,410 you know, one of the things that we talked about before we even got started today,254 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:25,490 some not everyone can do this is what you told me kind,255 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:29,930 so how can someone strive to do better at these things?256 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:35,150 -- How do you work on them? Just make them as goals -- to make them as goals?257 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Uh you know, strong moral values, you can certainly have,258 00:13:38,370 --> 00:13:41,120 you can have high expectations for your followers.259 00:13:41,150 --> 00:13:45,350 But the very issue is usually the charismatic part of this.260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,370 Typically if you do have strong moral values, you will,261 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:50,440 you will become charismatic over time.262 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,950 People are attracted to that,263 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,560 right? I think264 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:57,490 what you have to understand is you may think you're not a people person,265 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:00,580 but that alone may help you to attract people because266 00:14:00,590 --> 00:14:04,760 everyone wants someone who is overwhelming and who who who's,267 00:14:04,770 --> 00:14:06,450 you know, is this seat saved?268 00:14:06,450 --> 00:14:11,270 Well, I am, you know, you don't want me to tell you about my jesus, you know,269 00:14:11,270 --> 00:14:12,810 you don't always want that,270 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:16,230 you don't always need that and so it's really important to know,271 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:18,880 sometimes you need someone who is more laid back.272 00:14:18,890 --> 00:14:24,290 So what I'm trying to say is anybody and everybody can be used by God and can actually,273 00:14:24,290 --> 00:14:24,860 I think274 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,400 take a lot of what this information is and apply it,275 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:30,720 especially when you're trying to live like jesus,276 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,420 look at paul as an inspiration, these are all things you can do to get better.277 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:39,990 I don't know paul, I don't know how charismatic he was,278 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,560 I think sometimes people didn't even like him, but what279 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:47,440 paul brought to the table was he knew the truth,280 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,680 he knew the word better than anybody at the table probably and he and he slowly281 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,160 became someone who knew Jesus and when you282 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,220 know Jesus your influence can be charismatic,283 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:01,760 just that alone, Jesus is charismatic, amen284 00:15:01,940 --> 00:15:04,910 and his holy spirit can make you and help you to be285 00:15:04,910 --> 00:15:07,890 -- more charismatic and I do believe that with all my -- heart,286 00:15:07,900 --> 00:15:10,850 I believe that too and I think you brought up such an important point287 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,350 a lot of times,288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,610 the common misconception of a leader is they are they're very outgoing,289 00:15:16,610 --> 00:15:18,630 they're gregarious there, the life of the party,290 00:15:18,630 --> 00:15:21,610 they're the person that you want to invite when you want to have291 00:15:21,610 --> 00:15:24,000 fun but think about the transformational292 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,380 leaders especially the ones we've listed,293 00:15:26,390 --> 00:15:28,650 I can't imagine Abraham Lincoln was that way or294 00:15:28,650 --> 00:15:31,350 dr martin Luther king but they're the people you295 00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:33,370 want running the ship because they're going to get296 00:15:33,370 --> 00:15:36,090 more out of people than anyone else possibly can.297 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:39,070 In the beginning, Abraham Lincoln felt like people didn't even like him,298 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,440 I'm sure I've read that and I believe that to be true and299 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,100 I think the thing is he didn't quit and say I give up,300 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:49,560 I sure you wanted to but he decided to301 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,290 To uh to fix his eyes on on on the goal and302 00:15:53,290 --> 00:15:55,500 go for it and that's a look at what he accomplished,303 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:55,850 you know?304 00:15:55,850 --> 00:16:00,060 And as Christians were called in hebrews 12 to fix our eyes on Christ Jesus.305 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,540 We've got we've got the we got the mentality,306 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:06,070 -- we just got to do the application -- and that's it.307 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,360 That's exactly right.308 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:10,270 So I'm gonna move on. Are you sitting down dave?309 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,350 -- I am sitting down -- well I've got a bit of a warning,310 00:16:13,350 --> 00:16:16,280 transformational leadership comes with a warning.311 00:16:16,290 --> 00:16:19,830 -- Okay, I -- wish I had some scary music. We could,312 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,060 we don't313 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,390 -- bom bom that's working, I -- try to do the things from law and order.314 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,290 I'm sorry love it.315 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:31,070 Okay,316 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:36,170 so be warned that sometimes people can confuse transformational leadership317 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:38,400 with something called pseudo transformational318 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,450 leadership and here's the difference,319 00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:44,780 transformational leaders focus on engaging others to create a connection that320 00:16:44,780 --> 00:16:48,860 increases the motivation and morality in both the leader and follower321 00:16:49,140 --> 00:16:51,900 Sudo transformational leaders only focused on322 00:16:51,900 --> 00:16:53,840 the leaders interest and they usually323 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,260 use manipulation and they give no regard to the interests of their followers324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,180 so how do we know the difference,325 00:17:00,180 --> 00:17:03,000 we know the characteristics of transformational leadership,326 00:17:03,010 --> 00:17:06,790 here's some of the characteristics of the pseudo transformational leadership,327 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:11,950 the leaders are transforming so they can transform people too but in a negative way328 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,349 they are self consumed,329 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,730 power oriented and they have warped moral values,330 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,670 they're absolutely unwilling to encourage independent thought and followers,331 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:25,869 they have little or no caring for others and332 00:17:25,869 --> 00:17:28,750 they manipulate the followers for the leader's own needs,333 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,360 -- feeling like we're getting ready to get some -- examples.334 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,700 -- Well it's perfect -- timing thank you335 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:34,500 I'll be here all week,336 00:17:34,510 --> 00:17:37,920 we need another one of those there yeah thank you thank you.337 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:41,850 So who are some examples of pseudo transformational leaders from history?338 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,650 Adolf Hitler of course339 00:17:43,790 --> 00:17:48,670 Saddam Hussein is another multi dung is another Osama bin laden340 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,030 these people are the evil versions of transformational leaders,341 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:55,990 they're able to take people and transform them into something342 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,460 evil that the person normally couldn't have done by themselves,343 00:17:59,470 --> 00:18:03,630 I think the key word that I've heard you say I think is attract,344 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:09,000 they attract but it doesn't mean that it's right and I think there are people that are345 00:18:09,010 --> 00:18:16,040 that are attractive to things that are not of God and satan knows how to manipulate,346 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,390 let me make sure I tell you he knows your weakest link and he knows how to347 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:24,060 get on it and he knows how to how to take you out of what's important.348 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:28,790 So he absolutely does. I think attraction is a lot of what you're talking about.349 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,670 -- I think -- that's right.350 00:18:29,670 --> 00:18:32,220 These people drew, they drew others to them,351 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:35,180 especially Hitler Hussein mao Zedong of course352 00:18:35,180 --> 00:18:37,960 Osama bin laden people were drawn to them353 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,870 and then they manipulated them, they, they abuse them,354 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,580 they were so self centered and power oriented that they use these people355 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:49,490 -- for their own power well -- and we look at it like wow man,356 00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:50,510 they have to be crazy,357 00:18:50,510 --> 00:18:54,350 but what happens is you start thinking well if chris believes it,358 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:57,350 I trust chris maybe I'm missing something the next thing,359 00:18:57,350 --> 00:19:01,730 you know people who really don't believe in this value that this person is bringing,360 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,340 but they believe in someone connected to it,361 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:07,300 -- they start believing in a leader that really isn't taking -- on the right,362 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:10,060 you're absolutely right, that's exactly how it happened.363 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:13,860 So who are some pseudo transformational leaders from the bible,364 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,750 Can you think of anyone that's self consumed, power oriented?365 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:22,740 They're manipulative, like maybe satan in the garden of Eden,366 00:19:23,020 --> 00:19:26,360 how about Ahab,367 00:19:26,740 --> 00:19:31,670 -- Ahab, There you go, -- what he said, he was more evil than any that came before him.368 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,670 -- That's -- right.369 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,890 There is a, there is,370 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:37,360 I mean we have examples throughout the scripture of people who are evil,371 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:41,460 so I think of Herod right away because Herod was so power oriented372 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:44,490 that he was, he was willing to kill all the first born Children,373 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:46,890 just so no one could come and take over.374 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,670 That's375 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:50,910 -- that's called ego driven. -- Absolutely. And what376 00:19:50,910 --> 00:19:51,660 is ego377 00:19:52,140 --> 00:19:55,770 -- as you got and you got out. There you go, -- I love that.378 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,230 Okay,379 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,720 what are some of the strengths of transformational leadership will just380 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,710 shift off pseudo transformational leadership381 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:05,070 and get back to transformational leadership382 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,710 right away?383 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:08,330 It has intuitive appeal,384 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:11,540 people are attracted to transformational leadership because385 00:20:11,550 --> 00:20:13,170 it just makes sense to them.386 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:17,230 Transformational leadership emphasizes the followers.387 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,300 The true transformational leader will take care of the needs,388 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:23,350 values and morals of the followers and make them better.389 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,580 There you go.390 00:20:24,590 --> 00:20:28,190 -- Amen, -- transformational leadership is effective,391 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,880 there's tons of studies and evidence that support that392 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,370 transformational leadership is a very effective form of leadership.393 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:37,360 It's been one of the most studied of all forms and it works394 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:40,870 -- absolutely -- so lastly and we'll end on this,395 00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:44,160 What are some of the criticisms of transformational leadership?396 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:47,070 It treats leadership more as a personality397 00:20:47,070 --> 00:20:50,420 trait or predisposition than a behavior that can398 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:54,410 be taught and we discussed that how do you teach someone to be charismatic,399 00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:55,860 it's not that easy to do,400 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,010 it can be elitist and401 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,770 anti democratic.402 00:21:01,140 --> 00:21:01,860 I got you,403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,760 transformational leadership can suffer from the heroic leadership bias404 00:21:07,940 --> 00:21:10,660 and it has the potential to be abused and that's405 00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:13,710 where our pseudo transformational leaders come from and here's an406 00:21:13,710 --> 00:21:17,120 interesting one in the latest studies for whatever reason and407 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,140 I don't know why we don't know why yet,408 00:21:19,150 --> 00:21:23,770 transformational leadership is not typically well received by millennials.409 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,940 -- Uh huh That's an interesting thought. -- That is an interesting thought.410 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:31,580 Uh Yeah, hopefully we'll get more studies on that to find out why.411 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:34,980 -- But that in a nutshell is transformational leadership. -- It's good.412 00:21:34,990 --> 00:21:38,730 And so our scripture to kind of go along with it is romans 12413 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:41,450 right before 12, 12 versus one and two.414 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:45,700 Therefore I urge you brothers and sisters in view of God's mercy415 00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:49,650 to offer your bodies as living sacrifices. That word sacrifice.416 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:53,280 There is the greek word called cassia which also417 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,840 can mean offering and so what God's telling is418 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,960 there is to be a living offering and that means giving yourself up every day to him.419 00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:04,130 What does that do? It's holy and pleasing to God.420 00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:07,200 This is your true and proper worship verse to421 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,380 do not conform to the pattern of this world.422 00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:14,180 But here's the word be transformed by the renewing of your mind.423 00:22:14,190 --> 00:22:18,750 Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is his good pleasing.424 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,780 Perfect. Well transformation is an important thing. Thanks for listening to us.425 00:22:24,780 --> 00:22:29,400 Thanks for hanging out with us. Anything else chris you guys have an awesome week.426 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,360 God bless and we'll talk to you soon.427 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,120 This is an lbs production which stands for pounds.428 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,050 I don't know if you knew that or not but it also stands429 00:22:41,050 --> 00:22:44,360 for laughing because we're saved but we kind of like the pounds.430 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:49,520 So um chris will lift them and I will gain them and we will have a great time.431 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,360 Thanks for listening.